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Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:08:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > Dave Schuler wrote:
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> > > > > Why should a witness feel a need to stop a crime, thereby placing himself
> > > > > in harms' way for a stranger?
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> > > Because people are basically good, and want to help? That's why I would and
> > > have in the past.
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> > Not to lessen the significance of your prior actions, but for the context of
> > this debate, were these life-or-death situations, on the street, in which you
> > put yourself in harm's way for a stranger?
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> Admittedly, no. At least as far as I knew, they weren't. At some remove, I
> can tell you I'd think I'd be less likely to intervene in a fist fight,
> though, than in a situation where someone had a gun drawn, assuming I was
> carrying. Fist fights are too dangerous. (I don't currently have a carry
> permit in Michigan, although I did in Florida)
One should intervene if it is the right thing to do, irrespective of what
the outcome may be(1). To say otherwise, suggests you would only use your
gun to defend against "tyranny" if you thought you'd win. How weak is that?
Scott A
I shall quote a very bad film to illustrate my point:
“Ay, fight and you may die, run and you'll live. At least a while. And dying
in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days
from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and
tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our
freedom?”
>
> People deride the "wild west" but it's my opinion that people were more
> likely to intervene and aid then than they are now.
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| (...) It wasn't a bad film--it would have been a bad history text, if it had aspired to be a history text at all. As a piece of fiction, it was quite effective. Now The Patriot--*that* was a bad film. Dave! (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It depends on how you define win. There isn't any point in dying for nothing. There are situations in which dying is worthwhile. But not when it's just pointless. If you could defend person X from a wrong, but would be killed, or you could go (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Admittedly, no. At least as far as I knew, they weren't. At some remove, I can tell you I'd think I'd be less likely to intervene in a fist fight, though, than in a situation where someone had a gun drawn, assuming I was carrying. Fist fights (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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