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Re: Laws about sex.... (was something else)
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Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:58:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> Steven Lane wrote:
>
> > > > 10 years! he should have got twenty, he was already on probation, He
> > > > probably would have done it evetually and locking him up hardly counts as a
> > > > loss to society! I think what society gains from the removal of the risk he
> > > > posed far outways any supposed infringement of his rights.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Lane
> > > So, you're saying that the government can arrest me for fictional writings
> > > about something that is illegal, but never took place anywhere but in my
> > > head? And that it's right?!
> > >
> > > -Duane
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Look if someone has convictions for bomb making and you find a fake plan of
> > a bombing campaign in his home, your gonna put 2 and 2 together and put him
> > away.
>
> No, actually, you're not. At least, you shouldn't. If they're fiction, they
> have no base for a nonfictional case against you. If you HAD the materials for a
> bomb in the house, that would be one thing, but plans?
Well if the guy lived in Northern Island I bet he'd be put away under the
prevention of terroism act. In the right climate a government will make for
itself, laws strong enough to defeat the current challenge against it. My
earlier answears may have been a bit over simplified. A civil case is
generally only brought in this country if the CPS (Crown Prosecution
Service) think they can win it.
> You scare me.
Who scares you more? Me or the bloke with prior convictions locked away for
writing the filth.
And maybe the 20 years comment was a bit of a gut reaction. I'd be
satisified if they detained him indefinately, gave him psytriatric care and
released him once he was deemed to be re-habilitated. I think the fact his
actions we're discovere'd shows the system working for once.
Steve
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| (...) I see now - you don't live in the US, so you just can't quite appreciate the freedoms we have (they're eroding, though, unfortunately. And if more people in the US think like you, they'll erode much faster). (...) YOU. Him I may never run (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) True. This in fact appears to be true of all governments, no matter whether they start out just and democratic or not. And that's my issue with government, it's what our founding fathers tried to combat, imperfectly. We have a bill of rights (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No, actually, you're not. At least, you shouldn't. If they're fiction, they have no base for a nonfictional case against you. If you HAD the materials for a bomb in the house, that would be one thing, but plans? You scare me. (...) Yes, the (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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