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Re: Is this sexism?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:51:30 GMT
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Duane Hess wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > Duane Hess wrote:
> > 
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > David Eaton wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > > > I would consider it sexist.  I have no problem with giving the time off, but >to be fair you'd have to give men the same time off.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How do you feel about maternity leave? Sexist? Should the husband get the
> > > > > same time off as the woman? Should they be paid? And yes, I do know some
> > > > > companies DO allow men to get time off. But it's certainly a lot more >rare.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, yes, and no.
> > > > 
> > > > This should really be in a separate thread, but...
> > > > 
> > > > Women usually CHOOSE to get pregnant.
> > > 
> > > Generally, I would say that this is the case, but not always. I'll leave
> > > that to another thread.
> > 
> > As I said in another post, though, whether they choose to GET pregnant isn't >quite relevant.  Whether they choose to STAY pregnant is
> > their choice.
> 
> 
> Not touching that one... That's a whole other heat wave.

Tell me about it ;-)


> > > > I don't think they should get PAID time off for a medical condition they >CHOSE to have.
> > > 
> > > I don't necessarily agree with this, but I see your point. How about LASIK
> > > or other elective surgeries? As far as I know most people (at least where I
> > > work)are able to get time off for them as well.
> > 
> > Lasik isn't relevant, really.  I had it done, and was watching TV that night >(I drove myself home, too, as I had one eye done one year,
> > one done another, taking advantage of the IRS tax laws).  I DID take a half >day off, however.
> 
> My point was that it's an *elective* surgery. Pregnancy is generally an
> elective condition. Should people who choose to have an elective
> health-related procedure done be entitled to paid time off?

Sure - IF it's part of the base PTO that EVERYONE in the company gets, not some "extra" PTO that only some people get.


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(...) Not touching that one... That's a whole other heat wave. (...) My point was that it's an *elective* surgery. Pregnancy is generally an elective condition. Should people who choose to have an elective health-related procedure done be entitled (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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