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Re: Is this sexism?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:12:44 GMT
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David Eaton wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > David Eaton wrote:
> > > How do you feel about maternity leave?
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> > This should really be in a separate thread, but...
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> I dunno-- it may still be relevant... see below...
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> > Women usually CHOOSE to get pregnant. I don't think they should get PAID
> > time off for a medical condition they CHOSE to have.
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> So, if they DON'T choose it, is it sexist/unfair to give women paid time
> off?
PAID time off? If you don't also give Paternity leave, yes, it is. And that
still makes it unfair to those that choose not to have kids.
> Likewise, couldn't a woman choose to take the pill to at least lessen
> the effects of PMS? Or, embarking into fantasy, if there was a pill they
> could take to *eliminate* PMS on a monthly basis (not daily, but something
> miraculously wonderful), would having PMS then be considered a choice,
> assuming these miracle pills were affordable & available?
Yes, it would be a choice, assuming that miracle pill had zero side effects for
anyone.
> > I also don't think parents should get paid Flex Time while denying it to
> > adults without children. Again, they CHOSE to have kids, and
> > rewarding them for it/punishing others for NOT having kids just isn't right.
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> And again, if they didn't choose to have kids? But I think I agree with
> you-- when your kids affect your work performance, your benefits decrease in
> some manner or another, in relation to the decrease in work performance. In
> a "fair" world.
Unfortunately, I haven't heard of very many companies that are "fair" in that
respect.
Cause for yet another thread...
<donning flame suit>
Whether the woman CHOOSES to get pregnant or not isn't quite relevant. What is
relevant or not is if she chooses to STAY pregnant. That is her CHOICE.
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) Alright-- I'll ask a little more directly: what does the act of choosing have to do with it? Should those who *didn't* choose to have kids have negative reprecussions? Should those that *did* have negative repercussions? Should those negative (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I dunno-- it may still be relevant... see below... (...) So, if they DON'T choose it, is it sexist/unfair to give women paid time off? Likewise, couldn't a woman choose to take the pill to at least lessen the effects of PMS? Or, embarking into (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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