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Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:18:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > > And long term detriments may not be visible to all the Libertarian Party
> > > members. I did give a specific example (Libertarians allowing business to
> > > discriminate on the basis of race, creed, and sex)
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> > Might have missed the conclusion of that thread if it was in a different
> > thread but haven't seen a demonstration of how this is actually detrimental
> > (to anyone other than the business owner foolish enough to do it) yet.
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> Four messages back from the one I'm typing now.
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> You haven't seen a demonstration of how this is detrimental?!? Did you miss
> the reasons for the civil rights movement? Ensuing riots in reaction to
> racism? I pointed out earlier that you get that kind of thing from
> disenfranchisement of vast segments from society. You get it even now -
> make the forces against it weaker and you'll get it more. Idunno - I find
> that terribly detrimental.
Oh, me too. I just don't see it as following from allowing (not requiring)
businesses (with no barriers to entry) to choose who to serve. Jim Crow laws
REQUIRED businesses to discriminate.
++Lar
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| (...) *Some* did. Note the first one listed here: (URL) I'm sure you know that businesses that *wanted* to discriminate were behind those laws - typifying all businesses in these states as innocent victims isn't exactly accurate. My point was that (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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| (...) But it's not simply of matter of whether or not a restaurant will choose to serve "coloreds:" Businesses will be able to choose whether or not to hire people on basis of any bigoted notion they can think of. Further, because it can be quite (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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| (...) A random thought just jumped into my head... Where would the civil rights movement be had the segregationist states NOT used the National Guard to attempt to quell the demonstations? Recently (actually on my way to the April Baylug meeting), I (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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| (...) Four messages back from the one I'm typing now. You haven't seen a demonstration of how this is detrimental?!? Did you miss the reasons for the civil rights movement? Ensuing riots in reaction to racism? I pointed out earlier that you get that (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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