To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 10929
10928  |  10930
Subject: 
Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:16:53 GMT
Viewed: 
1197 times
  
Larry Pieniazek wrote:
You haven't seen a demonstration of how this is detrimental?!?  Did you miss
the reasons for the civil rights movement?  Ensuing riots in reaction to
racism?  I pointed out earlier that you get that kind of thing from
disenfranchisement of vast segments from society.  You get it even now -
make the forces against it weaker and you'll get it more.  Idunno - I find
that terribly detrimental.

Oh, me too. I just don't see it as following from allowing (not requiring)
businesses (with no barriers to entry) to choose who to serve. Jim Crow laws
REQUIRED businesses to discriminate.

A random thought just jumped into my head...

Where would the civil rights movement be had the segregationist states
NOT used the National Guard to attempt to quell the demonstations?

Recently (actually on my way to the April Baylug meeting), I read a
rather interesting article in the Unitarian Universalist Association's
magazine. The association recently discovered a copy of the eulogy MLK
gave to a UU minister who had been murdered while in Selma to join with
the marchers. The article pointed out that his death was the real
catalyst for the voting rights bill. A quote from
http://www.cucparamus.org/Sermons/james.htm

Jim Reeb died at 7pm on Thursday night. President Johnson sent a
private jet to take Jim’s ashes and his family home. He also sent
Lee White to represent him at Jim’s memorial service held at All
Souls church. White made it clear that Jim’s death had influenced
the President to "lay the voting rights bill before a special
session of Congress the following Monday evening." (p. 224)

One wonders if the opposition to the civil rights movement had remained
more local how many whites of conscience would have joined the movement.

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
 
(...) Oh, me too. I just don't see it as following from allowing (not requiring) businesses (with no barriers to entry) to choose who to serve. Jim Crow laws REQUIRED businesses to discriminate. ++Lar (23 years ago, 15-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

271 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR