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(...) :-) Yes, I'm surprised. You are correct at all. Actually, it's also surprised that this is the first message from me replied by four individuals..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) the (...) OK. Which part of this were contorted then: Have the Israelis used disproportionate force? The video footage of 12-year-old Muhammed al-Durrah cowering beside his father before being shot by an Israeli soldier prompted much (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Joakim Olsson" <jocke@arjay.nu> wrote in message news:G2uqw7.AMq@lugnet.com... (...) I have views on NI. They will remain my own for now. But the point you make is misleading. It is an accepted fact that the majority of those in NI want to be part (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Selçuk Göre" <ssgore@superonline.com> wrote in message news:39F34CD8.E3863E...ine.com... (...) like (...) Just (...) to be a (...) Arafat (...) "real country"? (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G2uJ31.KFo@lugnet.com... (...) always (...) Iraq or (...) be (...) state (...) that (...) Barak (...) I suppose I am. What other country uses tanks and gunships to quell civil (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:G2v4Dt.3C@lugnet.com... (...) hard (...) you... (...) it (...) Sorry, I was talking about the total destruction of Israel part. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) why not? Jordan's population is 90% palestinian. The only thing stopping it from being a palestinian state is that the palestinians are not the ones running that country. So why is it not true? Dan (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This may be semantics and I may be repeating myself, but like I said, I think a meritocracy (that is, the "rule" of those with merit) based elitist system is a good basis for a specialised hobby community like LUGNET. I think it IS semantics (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I try to stay away from debates in general - I usually keep my opinions to myself, unless they are really close to home (like this one). So, you probably don't know my opinions in general - thus you don't really know if I agree w/you or (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which, the Me-2'ing or the particular target? :-) I didn't know we were in DISagreement all that much, actually. (...) I guess I find this a bit surprising... I after all said that I didn't think Israel should have been created in the first (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You might be surprised.... For instance (correct me if I am wrong!), you have a good sense of humor, you are a cat person, and IIRC it was you who recently made that utterly charming statement about not knowing enough offensive words to be (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott A wrote in message ... *I really did not want to add posts to this thread as it is feelings inolved, byt hey, I could not help myself...* <snipped> (...) Yes, especially in Northern Ireland... Wouldn´t it be greate to give that piece of the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Shiri Dori wrote: <snip> (...) Very good point. And should be taken seriously by any other TV-room-history/inte...ecialists. Selçuk (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I really like this advice. --Todd (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also agree all of the points made, but I say a strong YES! to this. No, for the clueless, Turkey is not an Arabic country, and I'm not an Arab, but I really know what is like living in *any* Arabic country. I also know very well the look of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I won't reply to all this because Me-2'ing Larry is just not something I like to do ;-)... and I really agree with pretty much everything he says. Just wanted to add some small things. In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: [...] (...) (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you comparing Barak, a democratically elected leader of a democratic state that tolerates dissent and has a free press and the rule of law, and mechanisms to carry out investigations of wrongdoing and a justice system that administers (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to believe that as well, but I cannot do so in light of the past events. Arafat was supposedly for peace, and we in Israel hoped for a serious chance to acheive it. But now it seems that the Palestinians who want peace are not a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hard (...) I know extemists want that, but they are etremists. I read what in the UK is called a "seriouse" newspaper. I also listen to the good old BBC, which is, overall, pretty fair. Neither say what you claim. Perhaps this is part on the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is though. That's exactly what they want. (As for what you said in reply to my post - well heck, Larry didn't intend this to be a debate about the US either, right? He was just proving a point. You argued it's not true. He said it and he's (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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