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I won't reply to all this because Me-2'ing Larry is just not something I like to do ;-)... and I really agree with pretty much everything he says. Just wanted to add some small things. In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: [...] (...) (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you comparing Barak, a democratically elected leader of a democratic state that tolerates dissent and has a free press and the rule of law, and mechanisms to carry out investigations of wrongdoing and a justice system that administers (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to believe that as well, but I cannot do so in light of the past events. Arafat was supposedly for peace, and we in Israel hoped for a serious chance to acheive it. But now it seems that the Palestinians who want peace are not a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hard (...) I know extemists want that, but they are etremists. I read what in the UK is called a "seriouse" newspaper. I also listen to the good old BBC, which is, overall, pretty fair. Neither say what you claim. Perhaps this is part on the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is though. That's exactly what they want. (As for what you said in reply to my post - well heck, Larry didn't intend this to be a debate about the US either, right? He was just proving a point. You argued it's not true. He said it and he's (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not a "slag", and to just the USA. (...) I'm not sure that is true. (...) That was years ago. I'm not pround of. It is in the past. (...) ...and what about all the murderous dictators uncle sam (and the other "western" nations) supported (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:G2uEK7.81r@lugnet.com... (...) This is (...) There's (...) Yup. (...) an (...) I know, you're mean! (...) Hehe ;-) As I said before, I'm really glad I'm not attached to you :-P (and I pity the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I did not really intend this to be a Palestinian V Israeli debate, that always ends in looking levels of wrongness. However, if the current leader in Iraq or the former leader of serbia were to use the same methods - how would that be treated (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. Personally, I got to know a few people after repeatedly trading with them, because we used to slip in tidbits about RL happenings within the posts or emails. Even those little things go a long way later on. (...) I'd say the same for me. (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oh dear. I knew it'd come to lugnet too sometime. I've had enough politics in the past three weeks to last a lifetime, but here goes anyway. (...) Maybe true. In fact, probably true. (...) Oh my. Why *would*/*should* the US remove its so-called (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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