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from BBC news: "Maori take on hi-tech Lego toys" "After challenging Danish company Lego to stop using Maori words for its hi-tech toys, New Zealand Maori are now planning to work with the company to draft guidelines on how to use traditional (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.general)
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(...) It's great to see a positive result from this dispute!! ROSCO (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Lego has nothing to gain by poking fun of the Maori, but, someone has to tell them that they are not the only people in the Pacific! The original challenge was silly, because they are not exclusively Maori words. "If an agreement can be made (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) <snip> (...) But the Maori are the only ones to make a stink, so they are the ones LEGO is kowtowing to...squeeky wheel syndrome, ya' know? You'd think the Maori might notice this, but of course, there's money and press to be had. I still (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) I'm not sure what your point is here Matt -- quoting from the recent article: ' Mr Solomon and the groups he represents objected to the inappropriate use of Maori words, and the way the game mixed together strands of many cultures... "We would (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) <snip> (...) Right, but doesn't that show that LEGO specifically weren't lifting Maori culture and words? It took forethought to decide to give Bionicle a Pacific Island flavor, yet not impeed on any one specific peoples culture or beliefs. By (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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| | Re: Update on Maori/Bionicle dispute (OT)
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(...) Well, it is one big tourist trap (West Maui.) After a while (2 days in my case) you can freak out because you're surrounded by artificial entertainments. I thought it would help to look under the surface. The most *disorienting* moment was (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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Oh wow, this book I had picked up first is online. (URL) the first page you will get the idea to consider all Pacific cultures as inextricably mixed, although the book is about Ancient Hawai'i. Another book is Teuira Henry, Voyaging Chiefs of (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) <snip> (...) Sorry to tease, Erik...I think it's really cool that you were so bitten with the tropical bug <g> that you wanted to learn more about the cultures you were visiting. I guess the wife knows the general area of your family vacations (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Actually she wants to go to Jamaica next. That's a whole nuther kettle. (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Point taken, but let's up the stakes for the sake of argument. If LEGO had released a (substandard) action figure line, and one of the main characters was named Jesus Christ, would Catholics have a problem? How about if Jesus Christ had a pal (...) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Hercules is Roman. Herakles is Greek. I suppose I shouldn't mention the other character is from Generation-X (Xena). Bruce (remembering all those little zingers and getting revenge!) :-) (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) Pedant! Um. Well. Um. But on the show Herc was the son of Zeus and was antagonized by Hera. They're Greek, I tells ya! (...) I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about... Dave! (23 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) This is different (from usual) how? Oh wait, you said "you're" instead of "I'm"... never mind. (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) but this line of reasoning lies on specific terms, not broad cultural terminology. the maori seem to have a problem with the use of maori terminology, albeit some of them with religious connotation. i mean "pohatu" means "stone"; given your (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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(...) You're just mad 'cuz I outed you as a Creationist. Dave! (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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