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Re: Update on Maori/Bionicle dispute
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Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:53:46 GMT
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In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Matthew Gerber writes:

Anyway, this BBC article probably ignored substantive issues. The real
landmines are some of those Makuta names like Kane-Ra, and certainly not
the Toa and Tohunga names, which are so common as to not even be
specifically Maori.

But the Maori are the only ones to make a stink, so they are the ones LEGO
is kowtowing to...squeeky wheel syndrome, ya' know? You'd think the Maori
might notice this, but of course, there's money and press to be had.

I'm not sure what your point is here Matt -- quoting from the recent article:

' Mr Solomon and the groups he represents objected to the inappropriate use
of Maori words, and the way the game mixed together strands of many cultures...
"We would want to have a code of conduct; we know that other indigenous
people around the world would want to have a code of conduct," said Roma
Hippolite.'

The Maori groups seem quite aware that LEGO has conflated several cultural
traditions in the Bionicle fantasy world. Considering the number and
political activism of the Maori it's not really surprising that they have
been the ones to engage with TLC. Was there a claim for monetary
compensation? And is there something wrong with Maori trying to protect and
promote their culture?

I still don't think that this non-issue would have been invented if the
Maori hadn't been looking for support for their other pet compaints (to see
more about this, see the previous posts on this subject in technic.bionicle)

I missed the reference to "pet complaints". Were you referring to the
application to register .maori.nz? It seems like a perfectly legitimate idea
to me, especially considering the special political position of the Maori in
New Zealand -- see this link for an example:
http://www.elections.org.nz/elections/enrolling/faqs_maori_referenda.html#f.14

And Erik's correct about the landmine names...but as the article was likely
written from a Maori press-release, chances are they are actually still
battling this issue standing on the more generic names.

I had a quick look over past threads, but I missed the "Kane-Ra"
controversy: why are some names more contentious?

--DaveL



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(...) <snip> (...) Right, but doesn't that show that LEGO specifically weren't lifting Maori culture and words? It took forethought to decide to give Bionicle a Pacific Island flavor, yet not impeed on any one specific peoples culture or beliefs. By (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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(...) <snip> (...) But the Maori are the only ones to make a stink, so they are the ones LEGO is kowtowing to...squeeky wheel syndrome, ya' know? You'd think the Maori might notice this, but of course, there's money and press to be had. I still (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)

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