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Re: Conidtion of Sets (MIB, MISB)
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Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:23:52 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Well, my condition grading differs a bit. Here are mine

MISB - Sealed. Outer seals are intact
MIB - The outer seals may be off, but that is it. Pieces are still in
their ineer polybags.

This is the rule that I follow.  I had a situation just a couple of days
ago--one of my sets up for auction, although MIB, wasn't MISB (even though
I'd put it down that way).  I contacted the buyer immediately and offered to
make it up with a free new 7101 Lightsaber Duel (the set in question was a
6492 Hypno Cruiser, so it was a substantial offer for that supposedly
"minor" distinction), which did more than mollify him--it made him ecstatic,
because it turns out he just wanted it for parts anyhow.  But I do consider
making good on even those semantic issues to be at the core of honesty--just
as important as proper listing in the first place.  After all, we're all
human, and we all goof once in a while.  It's not making the mistake
(misteak?), but where you go from there, that distinguishes good sellers
from bad or just plain malicious ones.

As a general note, in my book anything that has BITE MARKS or fading or
yellowing of any sort cannot ever be called good.

Even if they're LUGNET-celebrity bite marks?  :)  (I'm sensing a new market
opening up here...)  narf

Re:  The piece description scale:  I generally don't sell pieces that are
less than brand new, unless I'm trading older pieces--even then, I reserve
the "yucky" ones for myself and send the better ones to the person who's
been kind enough to trust me for a trade.

For boxes, basically the same notion, is the box itself worn or torn or
faded? Note that most sets, when they come from the factory, don't have
boxes that I would grade as 'excellent'. The boxes get shelfwear pretty
fast. So a MISB may have a box that I would grade as only good, or even
poor! The seals just need to be intact.

If the box has crushed corners, scratching, or denting, I specify it as
"shelf-worn" and use descriptives to say just *how* shelf-worn that is.
Since I've started including images of the actual item in my possession I
can't be too loose in my description of shelf wear, because it will show in
the photo.

NOW, having said that, I should note that I usually don't care about box
condition or whether seals are present. But I DO care about brick
condition and I would be mighty upset to get a VG from you and find it
to have bite marks...

"I have a pitchfork, but it has bite marks.  Do you want it?"  :)  I'm
transported back a year, when I was over at a friend's house, and saw a grey
train door in the kids' LEGO bucket...covered with bite marks.  Aagh!  (And
no, I didn't seek it out and pillage it, these are kids, for the love of
Mike...note: the saint, not Stanley, who is probably mortified at the mere
*suggestion* of chewing a pitchfork.  It's like painting over a Guarded Inn
flag, which I also saw in my younger years.  The horror...the horror...)

best,

Lindsay



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Well, my condition grading differs a bit. Here are mine MISB - Sealed. Outer seals are intact MIB - The outer seals may be off, but that is it. Pieces are still in their ineer polybags. After that, merely use a statement of whether the box is (...) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.theory)

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