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Re: eBay as a venue (was Re: FA : 6399 Airport shuttle)
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lugnet.market.auction
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Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:46:37 GMT
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Nice compilation of thoughts, Eric...:-)
I'm with you for the "protection for buyer" subject especially. I don't
know any good protection rather than the trusty environment that we
created here on Lugnet. I feel myself much more on the safe side when
buying from a long time Lugneter than buying from a mega-power-seller
with zillion of stars in his/her inventory. I always take Lego as a
hobby, not a merchandise, so "friendliness" is the real key for me,
rather than the the rules and some other trivia, which are useless in
most cases, including their very own purposes.
I know ebay is there and it is the power in its area of expertise, and
don't blame anyone for preferring it for his/her personal sales, and I
also know that any seller can find a better value for his/her goods at
there. I just don't like it.
Selçuk
Eric McCarthy wrote:
>
> Selçuk Göre wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, dear!.. Finally, Blanpain family is on the ebay fronts, too. A sad
> > > day for lovers of private auctions/haters of ebay, like me..:-(
>
> Scott Runkle wrote:
> >
> > Comments about 'hating eBay' have always made me laugh. Users of eBay in
> > effect have their own private auction, but with protection built in for the
> > buyers as well. Certainly criticisms can be made about eBay not being a true
> > auction venue - there is a defined finished date & time (allows sniping), etc,
> > etc, etc.
> >
> > I personally am very skeptical over private auctions because they afford me no
> > protection or guarantees as a buyer. This is not to say that they are not
> > good for other people, as I have seen many of these run through Lugnet.
> >
> > Scott Runkle
> > http://members.fcc.net/runkle/
>
> As your "etc, etc, etc" implies, there are a lot of reasons to dislike
> eBay. They try to suppress competition (e.g. in the action against
> the meta-auction server). They penalize people for informing buyers
> of other selling resources (e.g. when they cancelled Larry P's
> auctions because he wrote where you could get certain sets cheaper).
> They offer no support to enthusiasts of any hobby other than just
> hosting the auctions. And they can get away with these things because
> they have a dominant market position.
>
> I don't really see eBay's protections for the buyers carrying much
> weight, either. There are "Power eBay sellers" who abuse their
> "power" by exaggerating the condition of their merchandise, knowing
> that a few negatives won't outweigh the positive feedback they already
> have. I think an auction that is hobby-venue-based (e.g. Lugnet) by
> someone who has built up a reputation at that venue is *more*
> trustworthy than an auction from a power eBay seller who doesn't
> specialize in the given hobby.
>
> All that said, I still feel I have to bow to market conditions and use
> eBay myself. I wish it weren't so.
>
> I am happy with what is happening on Brickbay. It looks like it is
> reaching critical mass. I intend to open a shop there very soon.
> Many of my eBay parts auctions have been getting only a single bid, so
> why not do straight sales? Also, I intend to inform my current and
> future eBay buyers about Brickbay and I encourage all other eBay Lego
> sellers to do the same!
>
> Sincerely,
> /Eric McC/
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