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Re: eBay as a venue (was Re: FA : 6399 Airport shuttle)
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Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:45 GMT
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Selçuk Göre wrote:

Oh, dear!.. Finally, Blanpain family is on the ebay fronts, too. A sad
day for lovers of private auctions/haters of ebay, like me..:-(

Scott Runkle wrote:

Comments about 'hating eBay' have always made me laugh.  Users of eBay in
effect have their own private auction, but with protection built in for the
buyers as well.  Certainly criticisms can be made about eBay not being a true
auction venue - there is a defined finished date & time (allows sniping), etc,
etc, etc.

I personally am very skeptical over private auctions because they afford me no
protection or guarantees as a buyer.  This is not to say that they are not
good for other people, as I have seen many of these run through Lugnet.

Scott Runkle
http://members.fcc.net/runkle/

As your "etc, etc, etc" implies, there are a lot of reasons to dislike
eBay.  They try to suppress competition (e.g. in the action against
the meta-auction server).  They penalize people for informing buyers
of other selling resources (e.g. when they cancelled Larry P's
auctions because he wrote where you could get certain sets cheaper).
They offer no support to enthusiasts of any hobby other than just
hosting the auctions.  And they can get away with these things because
they have a dominant market position.

I don't really see eBay's protections for the buyers carrying much
weight, either.  There are "Power eBay sellers" who abuse their
"power" by exaggerating the condition of their merchandise, knowing
that a few negatives won't outweigh the positive feedback they already
have.  I think an auction that is hobby-venue-based (e.g. Lugnet) by
someone who has built up a reputation at that venue is *more*
trustworthy than an auction from a power eBay seller who doesn't
specialize in the given hobby.

All that said, I still feel I have to bow to market conditions and use
eBay myself.  I wish it weren't so.

I am happy with what is happening on Brickbay.  It looks like it is
reaching critical mass.  I intend to open a shop there very soon.
Many of my eBay parts auctions have been getting only a single bid, so
why not do straight sales?  Also, I intend to inform my current and
future eBay buyers about Brickbay and I encourage all other eBay Lego
sellers to do the same!

Sincerely,
/Eric McC/



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: eBay as a venue (was Re: FA : 6399 Airport shuttle)
 
Nice compilation of thoughts, Eric...:-) I'm with you for the "protection for buyer" subject especially. I don't know any good protection rather than the trusty environment that we created here on Lugnet. I feel myself much more on the safe side (...) (24 years ago, 2-Aug-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
  Re: eBay as a venue (was Re: FA : 6399 Airport shuttle)
 
I am a fan of straight Lego sales as well, and do the majority of my selling this way. As far as buyer protection, eBay does have Fraud Insurance, although it's not fantastic. Also, every buyer can see all bids at the end of an auction, nothing is (...) (24 years ago, 13-Sep-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

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  eBay as a venue (was Re: FA : 6399 Airport shuttle)
 
(...) Comments about 'hating eBay' have always made me laugh. Users of eBay in effect have their own private auction, but with protection built in for the buyers as well. Certainly criticisms can be made about eBay not being a true auction venue - (...) (24 years ago, 13-Sep-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

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