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Re: CO BrikWars get together
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Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:25:07 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.us.oh, Gino A. Melone writes:
> <Note, I am not familar enough with all of the BrikWars rules to have
> these discussions under their umbrella. I am usually speaking in, umm,
> practical terms. Or, at least, as close as you can get when discussing
> X-Wing vs CaveMen scenarios.>
LOL!
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> > That's probably the best plan. I'm starting to feel that the whole
> > point ratio thing will never be a perfect fit; no amount of CaveMan
> > troops would ever be able to defeat an X-Wing for instance, no
> > matter how many extra points you gave the CaveMen. You almost have
> > to forget about point costs and make guesses based on the scenario.
> Actually, what is an X-Wing going to do to a large group of cavemen.
> It doesn't have any wide-field weapons. All it can do is try to pick
> off individual combatants. And they can hide very well. Actually, I
> think someone tried something like this scenario with the EndorMoon
> supplement. :-)
This is true....heh heh heh. The X-Wing pilot COULD try and set off some
explosions with his lasers. No, wait. He could not, as he is strafing cavemen;
they have no bombs or ammo.
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> > I doubt that anyone would do that, if all you had were a bunch of
> > knights and somebody decided to butcher you with a bunch of
> > Harriers, then you would just pack up and go home because there
> > wouldn't even be any point in fighting the battle. There would be
> > no game, and the person who built all the harriers would be ashamed
> > of themselves for being such a poor sport. I mean, seriously.
> I assume that, by Harrier, you mean the VTOL jet that the Brit's are
> so fond of. I really doubt a Harrier would be very effective against a
> large squad of knights.
Yes, that is the one. The US Marines use an upgraded version of the aircraft,
too.
> The thing can't hover for extended periods of
> time. In combat it would be basically a jet. It would have to do very
> fast flybys and strafe or bomb. The first pass would do a lot of
> damage. Then the forces would scatter before it could get back. By
> the time it turned around for another pass (a good 2 minutes, or more)
> the ground forces would be scattering at full speed. If he ever made
> the mistake of getting close to the ground, a battle-axe would do very
> interesting things to a sheet metal, aluminum and graphite plane. Now,
> you coop all of those knights up in castle and they had better have
> some powerful and fast balistae.
Again, no field eliminator weaponry :) It would not take 2 minutes for a
Harrier to turn around. While it cannot hover for extended periods of time, it
CAN hover long enough to turn itself around in one location.
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> If you field a whole squadron of Harriers, you need to field, say,
> 10,000 knights. If they know that they are travelling through Harrier
> territory, they will be seperated into groups of 10-20 and travelling
> under cover whenever possible. 500-1000 seperate, covered, targets are
> going to take a lot of time and ammo to track down.
Harriers were just an example of a VTOL aircraft. I'm not using them, and I
doubt anybody else is either. (Besides, you just squashed the idea .. it
wouldn't be worthwhile!)
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> Now, an Apache on the other hand, could be very effective against
> knights. But then, it is designed to combat ground troops.
Or an A-10 Warthog. That thing would rip every Knight you had apart with the
first strafing run.
> However, a
> forest would change things, again. Most modern combat vehicles are
> fairly useless in a forest. That's one of the reasons why marines are
> still around.
Not exactly. Tanks are essentially useless in a forest, true. Take a look at
Viet Nam -- what did we do? F-4 Phantom II's equipped with Napalm Bombs. We'd
toast entire sections of the forest.
The US Army also used helicoptors in Viet Nam quite effectively, as they could
land in just about any clearing.
And Tanks were used, although not in any great number -- they mounted bull
dozer plow's on the front of a tank.
> In a forest, a trooper vs trooper battle would be
> interesting in any TL combination. If, the lower TL can field greater
> numbers commensurate with the difference in damage and armor.
What did the poor tree ever do to you?! The poor ABS ThermoPlastix trees would
get horribly ripped up ... as any blast that missed would hit a tree.
I doubt we'll be doing much fighting in a forest, however. How many people
have the 150 some trees to do a decent forest?
(the greenhouse effect is setting in...no trees..)
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> Give me a million TL(-1) VirusMen against your TL6 StarMan any day.
Heh heh heh heh.
>
> Relatedly, the ueber-Wizard I've talked about would probably be TL7
> equivalent. BTW, you can probably do magic without the use of any
> supplements. Just use a magical-object model of magic. The stats for
> magical-objects would be worked up like any tech-object of similar
> abilities. A magic wand that shoots fireballs is a bazooka without the
> movement penalties and, possibly, inexhaustable ammo.
That would be nasty.
>
> Later,
> Gino A...
LegoMasterLuke
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| (...) He could sure blow up their hiding places though. And a caveman probably isn't that much smaller than a womp rat, and Luke used to bullseye those all the time in beggar's canyon. Good thing the Empire did away with the ASPCA or Luke would (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-00, to lugnet.loc.us.oh)
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| <Note, I am not familar enough with all of the BrikWars rules to have these discussions under their umbrella. I am usually speaking in, umm, practical terms. Or, at least, as close as you can get when discussing X-Wing vs CaveMen scenarios.> (...) (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-00, to lugnet.loc.us.oh)
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