To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.loc.ukOpen lugnet.loc.uk in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Local / United Kingdom / 4815
4814  |  4816
Subject: 
Re: Just where is Scotland?
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.loc.ie
Followup-To: 
lugnet.loc.uk
Date: 
Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:49:26 GMT
Viewed: 
207 times
  
Please take this OUT of .direct.  It really doesn't have anything to do with
.direct anymore.


Paul Ferguson wrote:

> First, I apologize for jumping into this off-topic discussion with
> another off-topic response but I'll do it anyhow.  What Paul says below
> is MOSTLY true, with some reservations.  My experience is now about
> a decade old, so you UK people can help me out here where I've gone
> wrong.
> 
> 1.  Scots Law is not, in fact, exactly the same as English Law. The titles
> (the "Procurator Fiscal" is one) and duties of the judges and officials of the
> legal system are different, and there are some procedural differences.  The
> most notable is that Scotland allows THREE verdicts in a criminal trial:
> Guilty, Not Guilty, and Not Proven. The last basically means that the jury may
> think that the accused committed the crime, but that the prosecution messed up
> its case, so the accused goes free.  For you mystery novel readers, this is the
> origin of the term "Scotch Verdict".
> 
> Moreover, whenever the Parliament (at Westminster, in London) passes a
> law, it applies to England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.  They then pass
> an identical or similar bill called the "whatever-this-law-is (Scotland) Act".
> Note that it really ticked off the Scots back in the late 1980s when
> the conservative government imposed on Scotland a "poll tax" which fell
> more heavily on low-income people than the English counterpart did, because
> they'd worded the two laws differently.  (Perfidious sassanachs!)
> Perfectly legal in the U.K.
> 
> This is because, unlike Wales and Northern Ireland, Scotland did not come
> under the Britsh crown by conquest.  Instead, a Scottish King, James VI (of
> Scotland), inherited the English throne, becoming James I of England
> 
> 2.  Currency: All banknotes in England are printed by the Bank of
> England, which is kind of like the U. S. Federal Reserve.  Bank Notes in
> Scotland are issued by three commercial bankes, the Bank of Scotland,
> the Royal Bank of Scotland, and the Clydedale Bank.  They all look different
> from each other and from the Bank of England notes.  (Coins are the same
> everywhere).  In fact, the last time I was there, on the English side,
> all the one-pound paper currency had been replaced with coins, but Scotland
> still had one-pound paper notes.  Now, all of this currency is SUPPOSED
> to be legal tender throughout the U.K., but as those of us who have taken
> the overnight train from Edinburgh to London with nothing but a pocket
> full of Scottish currency know, it can be darn hard to convince local shops
> in the south of that (I've even had public transit people refuse my
> Scottish notes) -- they've just never seen the Scottish ones before.
> 
> 3.  Postage stamps: no big deal, cause they all work everywhere in the
> U.K., but did you know that there are variants of the basic, non-commerative
> postage stamps, too?  In Scotland they have a lion (Scottish royal symbol)
> in the upper right.  In Wales it's a dragon, and in Northern Ireland it's
> the hand of Ulster.
> 
> Oh, well, end of tirade.  Don't even get me started on the Isle of Man,
> the Tinwold, and "birching."
> 
> Paul Ferguson
> (On behalf of the Community of the Realm of Scotland)
> 
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Paul Davidson writes:
> > Well, whether you like it or not, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales are
> > all subordinate to the sovereignty of the United Kingdom of Great Britain
> > and Northern Ireland, sharing her laws, defense, and currency.
> > 
> > But I'd be the first one to support an independent Scotland if they ever
> > manage to get that far. :)  The Scottish Parliament is a good first step!
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > 
> > Paul Davidson
> 
> ....<Big snip here of Scott Arthur's message>
> 
> > > 
> > > Scott A

--
| Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
|      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: Just where is Scotland?
 
Tom, My mistake. I thought I had deleted .direct from the post to: field. Apologies to all. Paul (...) the (...) may (...) up (...) the (...) Act". (...) (26 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.loc.uk)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Just where is Scotland?
 
First, I apologize for jumping into this off-topic discussion with another off-topic response but I'll do it anyhow. What Paul says below is MOSTLY true, with some reservations. My experience is now about a decade old, so you UK people can help me (...) (26 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.loc.ie)

21 Messages in This Thread:










Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact

This Message and its Replies on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR