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Re: LEGOs dirty trick: making money by not producing all masks as announced.
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lugnet.lego.direct
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Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:41:43 GMT
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Reinhard \"Ben\" Beneke wrote:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes:
> >
> > When you say "old Lego," roughly what year or year range are you referring
> > to? I haven't really noticed any quality differences recently, but huge
> > quality differences since the 70's (better since then). Is the quality
> > lesser now than, say, 5 years ago? I seem to remember people noticing in
> > 1995 that new bricks didn't hold as tightly as new bricks from 1990 did
> > then.
> >
> > --Todd
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> I'm not asked, but this is one of my "favorite" topics, since I'm really
> concerned about the decreasing quality of bricks (to be measured) as well as
> the quality (playability) of sets (which is quite subjective).
>
> I recently bought a 342 ( http://guide.lugnet.com/set/342 ) set from 1968,
> which never has been disassebled. I was really astonished, since I thought Lego
> had the best quality of bricks in the range of 1977 till 1991 (maybe 1994),
> but now I saw this set and all bricks are really perfect!! The walls have no
> gaps, all lines are 100% straight and all angles have excactly 90°. Only the
> colours are not as perfect as they used to be in the 80ies.
>
> And second statement on such old elements: As I found out, plates used to be in
> a little decreased quality in relation to bricks (but still better than todays
> ones).
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> Maybe the situation is different for the US and Europe, since you have had
> samsonite bricks in the 70ies. We have had perfect bricks from the late 60ies
> on, perfect plates from the midle of the 70ies.
>
> All bricks used to be rubbish as long as the weren't made by ABS (till
> 1963/64). I don not want to have them back....
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> Regards,
>
> Ben
>
> P.s.:
> another quality discussion:
> http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=9705
Ben, yes Cellulose Acetate bricks were not stable and warped. As a child, I
thought that it was something that I did to get them that way. I wondered if I
left them in the sun too long, or just played with them too often. Little did I
know then that it was because of the plastic. I do not use my CA pieces, but the
waffle bottom plates are OK to use. They did not warp like the bricks did. (At
least most of mine are not warped.) Perhaps it was because the waffle bottom kept
them from warping?? But the CA waffle bottom plates (99% were white) were not at
all shiny like the CA bricks. And remember that CA was used by Samsonite until the
end of the 1960's, mostly in yellow bricks (and even plates). Many Samsonite sets
from the mid-late 60's have a mixture of CA and ABS. TLC Europe switched to ABS in
63-64 for all their pieces. That is why (and I have not absolutely confirmed
this) you cannot find CA yellow plates in Europe, only North America. (Note:
yellow plates came out in 1964-65, a year or two later than the plates in other
colors.)
Gary Istok
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