 | | Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team — Jake McKee
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| | | As some of you may have heard by now, the LEGO Company worked together with a small group of AFOLs on the micro/LEGO Factory concept. As I'm sure many of you are curious, about the details, I wanted to pass along a bit of history. In early January (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.lego.announce, FTX) !!
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Scott Lyttle
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| | | | | (snip) (...) So... Bottom line... take lots of pics of your creations and get them up on brickshelf or MOCpages...right? Scott Lyttle (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Peter Roberts
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| | | | | (...) I really have grown to like micro scale. It's great if you want to build a realistic cityscape with limited pieces. OK, so I've only built one small pair of micro models (not impressive, so don't ask about them), but they're still great. Early (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Brian Muzas
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| | | | | | (...) I agree! :) (...) No, we don't. (...) :) (...) Ah, yes. I must admit, LDD does help assuage my need for plastic: I can get colors and pieces that I don't have in my physical collection.... (...) Peter, I agree. There will always be ups, downs, (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —C. L. GunningCook
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| | | | | (...) snip (...) Congratulations to you all. The efforts you made certainly shows in the inspirational models. Thank you for representing the adult fan base so well with high quality creations. I love the fact that micro is being taken up to the (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Terry Prosper
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| | | | | (...) Hi, I thought long before posting about this. Mainly because I don't think I have anything positive to add and it may seem negative at first glance, but what I am hoping is for an explanation so I can understand. See, I read your first post a (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Marc Nelson, Jr.
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| | | | | | | (...) snip (...) I completely sympathize with you on the color change issue, but that didn't stop me from being excited about the LEGO Factory contest/micro town theme. Granted, I would have been a lot MORE excited about the whole thing if the sets (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —David Simmons
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| | | | | | | I emphathize with your sentiments on the color change, Terry. I'm very happy to see that TLG is truly making an effort to involve us AFOL's much more deeply in the real nuts and bolts of the company, but I'm always going to feel like it should've (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —J. Spencer Rezkalla
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| | | | | | | (...) Note: I'm speaking for myself here, not Lego. I think there are a couple of big things to be excited about: 1. From Jake's original post: "If the idea catches on, we will open up the virtual LEGO Factory for all LEGO fans to have their own (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team — Jake McKee
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| | | | | | (...) Like you, I debated for a while on whether to respond. Text is such a bad medium for communication, especially if you have a dry sense of humor like I do. Please read the message is the most positive way you can, as I'm not at all upset as I (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Terry Prosper
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| | | | | | (...) Hello Jake For once, we're on the same page :-) Text IS a bad media to express our emotions and feelings. As I was reading your answer to my post I had to keep in mind your warning about you not being upset at all, as some answer or comments (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team — Jake McKee
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| | | | | | In lugnet.lego, Terry Prosper wrote: -- snip tons of good stuff -- Thanks for the long response. Not much to follow-up on, save this one thing: (...) You make very good points. Think what you will about the company, but when you think of me (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Terry Prosper
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh well, I tried. I honestly tried to give it a chance, but seriously, how could I take this whole thing seriously after a post like this? I complain about the way The LEGO Company treats us and all you answer back is that you are working (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Terry, until you said that, I was saying to myself "Well he's entitled to his opinion". But to say Jake is not a real AFOL is laughable. Just search through his Lugnet messages - you'll find many posted before he even joined LEGO, on so many (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Who the heck are you to be giving Jake "chances to redeem himself"? You've got a lot of brass, I'd say, to be coming off the way you do. (...) I'll give you this part. (...) Adult? I have my doubts. Especially when you put up an entire post (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.color, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Marc Nelson, Jr.
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| | | | | | | | | (...) snip (...) I know that you don't want to hear that it wasn't Jake's fault... but that wasn't Jake's fault. He was just as blindsided by the color change as the rest of us, and so were most of TLC's employees. Some of them still don't know (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Ed McGlynn
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Your message has been sanitized. Please resume building activities. Ed (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Gil Shaw
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| | | | | | | | | I very rarely post to these threads as they are not directly building related, but.... Not really going to spend time refuting Terry's opinion. It's is own and despite whether I agree or disagree with it, I doubt we'll change either other's take by (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Ka-On Lee
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Well Hasbro had one for Transformers, but had to "call it quit" after a while: (URL) don't know any detail but transfans are about the most immature bunch so that is not surprising. (...) I agree. (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —James Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Wow what a load! It hurt my head trying to figure out what you typed Terry. I had to read it twice to figure it out, once to get past the poor grammar and spelling, then again to try and put together what you were actually saying...after all (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.lego, Terry Prosper wrote: <snip> (...) Terry doesn't speak for me. After reading the newsgroups here at LUGNET, and attending BF, as well as checking out other websites/venues regarding our chosen hobby, and partaking in many discussions (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) While we're not all rah-rah "We Love The Lego Community!" up here (well, not most of us) we're defintely supportive of what Jake and Lego have done for us. I agree with Dave--let's be thankful for what HAS been done for us (which has been a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.lego, Terry Prosper wrote: I just think a real AFOL would be better suited (...) If you had ever met Jake you wouldn't be saying this. The way you've been acting, I'm starting to think the "A" in your AFOL means something other than (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Everyone at Lego including Jake works hard and diligently to bring us the best products in the world - new lightup minifigs and all. Thanks Jake. I finally see that my work IS being recognized by the TLC! Very gratifying.... I'm glad I was (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Instead of "link", after a post like this, "filter" seems more correct. -Tom McD. (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | (snip a lot of crap) (...) Wow, I didn't think you could stoop any lower in my opinion. Thanks for proving me wrong. It's been fun. -Tim (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Terry, stop saying 'we' as if you are talking for other people than yourself! You are certainly not talking for us (The Isaksson family)!!! (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | | (...) It really seems like that's your issue with Jake. Just the fact that he didn't warn the community about the color change. Was there anything else? Now, I don't know what happened at the time. Looks like Jake made his first post on the issue on (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Coincidentally, that was almost exactly 1 year ago! Anyhow, I think Jake does a great job of dealing with us sensitive AFOLs. He always manages to maintain his professionalism even when things are directed towards him personally (when it's not (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Darrell Urbien
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| | | | | | | | | (...) When LEGO Factory was announced I can't say how excited I was - I saw it as such a breath of fresh air. Creativity. Design by design. Community building.. Then this post comes to remind me of the Dark Side of AFOL-dom. Some of youse guys is (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | | | | | At the risk of adding absolutly nothing constructive or positive to this "discussion", I feel the need to say my piece. Shortly after I became a member of Lugnet, I jumped into a discussion between Lugnet and a Lego employee. I have no idea who it (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | (...) <SNIPPAGE of the most outrageous thing I've ever read on LUGNET> How to react to your post? On one hand, I feel flushed with anger towards your imbecility, but on the other, I laugh at your comical puerility. On the other hand, I marvel at (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Ten cheers for Jake —Per Langkilde
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| | | | | | | | | To Terry A simple ASSHOLE like many others. I'll dare say it. Like many others have done here (without the actual word) I myself is not to happy about the colorchange but this is a company thing AND not related to Jake. But an attack like this is (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ten cheers for Jake —Johannes Koehler
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| | | | | | | | | | | Hell! (...) Oh please...... Jojo (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ten cheers for Jake —Patrick S. O'Donnell
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Trying to stay neutral, but could A-Hole have been used? Here we have an AFOL who may be an A-Hole soon to go AWOL. -Patrick (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ten cheers for Jake —Marc Nelson, Jr.
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Where are those admins when you need them? Marc Nelson Jr. (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Mark Jordan
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| | | | | | | | (...) Jake has only made one mistake he should regret - responding to you. Jake, don't wrestle with pigs. You just get dirty and the pigs enjoy it. (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | Hi Jake: In the past you've been commendably willing to address my concerns directly, despite the particular role that I fill here on LUGNET. I can't really address any of Terry's comments, but I wanted to offer a few points that I think might (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX) !
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) **snip of several names** (...) Hey John, is that your son Ross? Not to pick nits, but does he actually qualify as an AFOL? I thought he was younger. Not that there's anything wrong with young kids--I myself am quite fond of one in particular. (...) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —James Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | (...) I was glad to see Ross' name on the list. After seeing his micro city with working train so many years ago, I think he was an obvious choice to be a part of the team. (URL) (20 years ago, 17-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) brother, whom John forces to sleep in a small bed to preserve the illusion of youth. I conclude this logically, because *I* certainly wasn't producing stuff like Ross' when I was his alleged age. Dave! (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I've met Ross, he's a great kid. The standing joke in the GMLTC is every time we see his Dad displaying some of of Ross's work we ask "Does his mother build with Lego?", feigning that there's no way he could have gotten than talent from his (...) (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, not to belittle Ross' building ability (heck, it's way better than mine even though I'm probably much older than he is), but how many teenagers have access to the motherload of parts that Ross has access to?! :) -Bryan (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not nearly enough of them!!! JohnG, GMLTC (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Sorry, I just came across this post, Dave! Yes, that is Ross my son. Well, he used to be younger;-) (He's actually 15 now) 8^0 I think Ross' age really didn't come into play; he was chosen based upon a lot of the micro-MOCs he had built in the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) What do you mean? I don't understand. 8^) (...) Hey, I'm fine with his age, but I think that TLG is missing an opportunity here. Sure, it's nice that AFOLs have contributed to this project, but if he can legitmately assert that teens/children (...) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Behind the curtains - LEGO Factory AFOL Project Team —William R. Ward
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| | | | Great news, Jake! I think this shows a fundamental shift in the LEGO company's attitude toward AFOL's. Prior to this, I think we were perceived as a bunch of mostly harmless weirdos with a lot of time on our hands. But now, it looks like LEGO is (...) (20 years ago, 18-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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