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SNIP (...) First, I have yet to see the new colors in person. That being said: The only thing I know for sure is that companies (large and small) rarely do anything unless they somehow feel it will increase their profits, marketshare, stockprice, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Douglas R. Clark wrote: ... (...) ... Why not? What *POSSIBLE* motive would LEGO have to lie to anyone? If the reason is one of the more plausable ones you suggested elsewhere, it would have been perfectly reasonable for them to have said as much -- (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) This is a funny quagmire of reasoning. I tend to believe the explanation of the focus group(s). Having worked in statistical sampling (once upon a time), I certainly hope that their sample size (number of children, parents, etc) and controls (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I can think of several possible reasons that Lego would lie. Generally companies call it public relations or spin though. The following situations are all hypothetical examples. 1. IF the "real" reason for the color change was that it was (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's possible that they haven't lied... but also that they haven't told the whole truth. I do believe the focus group explanation. However, as we've seen time and time again on LUGNET, a poll or question is only as good as the way in which you (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) They would be opening themselves up to lawsuits whether or not they admitted to a problem of this... not divulging this information if it were true would be even worse for them. LEGO's been around too long as a company now to not have regard (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ABS can vary in quality, but it's irrelevant in this example, because MEGABLOKS aren't made from ABS. Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) (ABS is "Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene" for those that don't remember... it's a polystyrene variant/alloy) What ARE they made of? I was pretty sure they were ABS too, just a different formulation. Are they made of some sort of styrene (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doh! The clonemeister's been scooped! I thought it had been established somewhere that MEGABLOKS used some lesser manner of styrene other than ABS, but I could easily be mistaken. There was a thread in OT-Clones a while back about Ritvik's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I remember correctly, you asked What *POSSIBLE* reason would TLC lie?. Well I gave you some possible reasons. You did not ask for probable, plausible or credible reasons. I answered your question fairly, and you attack me instead? Heck, I (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Tarrabain wrote: <snip> (...) Recently this discussion between Douglas R. Clark and Mark Tarrabain brought up some issues about trust and corporate motivation. It was taken to .debate, but I would like to return it (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Scott A (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmmm...it works for me. I also tried going to the main page ((URL) and entering "lego" in the search box. Anyone else having difficultly viewing the article? -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Works for me now! Thanks. I liked this: "The company said the firings were necessary due to thin business this year and that it expected continuing weak performance in 2004. Lego employs 8,000 people worldwide." Obviously, the company will (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yep. With the US being a large market for LEGO, I wonder how much the weakness of the USD is affecting TLC ? I'm sure there are all kinds of hedges and plays to protect the repatriation of earnings, but still. Ray (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, since "business performance" may reasonably be interpreted as the measure of the company's ability to sustain higher profits, it's not really a lie. Further, I don't think it's a sin for a company to be motivated by the desire to make (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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