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    History of wheel and tire designs —David Lewis
   Can anyone (who didn't have a twenty-five year dark age) point me to info or give me a quick history of Lego wheels and tires? The wheels I remember from childhood (late sixties, early seventies) had a short brass colored axle that was inserted into (...) (23 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Anders Isaksson
     "David Lewis" <dlewis@seanet.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GAy8s3.BJ1@lugnet.com... (...) Unfortunately I don't have any facts about this... (...) today, (...) ...but looking in my shoe box with old Lego (ca: 1960-67) I still have one tire for each (...) (23 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Ross Crawford
     (...) Some "brass axle" wheels also had black treadless tyres - some of these were pnuematic, some were solid, but didn't last as well as the grey solid tyres, at least not in my collection. The grey ones held up remarkably well, except some (...) (23 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —William R. Ward
     (...) Well my childhood and early LEGO years was the mid-late 70's and early-mid 80's. During that time the wheels you remember were already gone, but the ones that replaced them were nearly the same. The 2x4 bricks were black (I think the ones you (...) (23 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Paul Hanson
     (...) My early Lego years were just about the same time. My earliest wheels are just like you describe (smooth black tires, red hubs w/metal pin, black 2x4 brick with holes). I still have these tires, and they aren't brittle at all. None have ever (...) (23 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of wheel and tire designs —William R. Ward
     (...) That's odd. The big black motor that's like a stack of bricks 4x8, 4x12, and 4x8x1.33? Mine has one axle hole offset 2 studs from one of the paris of metal-pin-holes. The other axle would go in a grey 2x4 brick that was riddled with (...) (23 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Ross Crawford
      (...) There definitely was an earlier motor, which didnt have the hole for the technic axles. Compare (URL) and (URL) think set 901 only came in black, but 900 came in both blue and black (Gary can probably tell you for sure) - mine's blue, but no (...) (23 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Paul Hanson
     (...) Yep, the big oddly-brick shaped motor. No holes for Technic axles (though I could press a medium Technic gear onto the studs of one of the 2x2 red hubs to get it to drive a Technic creation). (...) You're right - HUBS permanantly attached. But (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Simon Bennett
     (...) In case it helps I had one of each. In fact I thought I still had them both but it turns out I've only got the one without the 'Technical' axle hole. Another difference was that the lid to the battery box on the newer one was thinner but (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Gary Istok
   I will check some of my old 1962-64 LEGO Wheels and wheel sets (#314, 400, 401, 402), but I think what I state below is fairly accurate: LEGO wheels first came out in 1962. The oldest wheels had the red 2x2 wheels with gray tires, and white 2x4 (...) (23 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Anders Isaksson
   "Gary Istok" <gistok@umich.edu> skrev i meddelandet news:3AC4D458.BEEAD6...ich.edu... (...) wheels (...) Are you sure about the tires? I'm almost certain that my first wheels had beige ('off-white') tires, and the gray ones came later. Looking at my (...) (23 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of wheel and tire designs —Gary Istok
    (...) Gary Istok (23 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.general)
 

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