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Re: The realization of juniorization sets in...
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Fri, 31 Dec 1999 03:20:12 GMT
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Paul Davidson wrote in message ...
True, it would have been an expensive set otherwise, but here's what I • first
saw when I looked at the box:

Several large road pieces with no studs.

These do actually have some studs, though it would perhaps have been nice if
they had studs along the whole length of the wall (though said studs would
be weird, and not necessarily usefull on the curved pieces).

Large one-piece road support POOPs.

These are not single piece (unless you're meaning the bottom piece), though
they are a bit juniorized. I see an advantage to the single piece bottom. It
makes for a much lower "hump" than you could get if it was made of bricks,
when you run an elevated road above a surface road. Also this piece adds
some needed stability to the whole thing which might not be present if it
was made of individual bricks.

An enormous 1-piece crane support POOP.

The crane support is made of several pieces, including two leg pieces. I
challenge you to build something out of bricks that would be as sturdy and
have the same interesting angles. This may be a SPUD, but it is not a POOP.

A large 1-piece cement-mixer POOP.

While I could see this being made of more than one piece, it would be hard
to make it out of many pieces and still be able to hold and dump "cement" in
the form of bricks. While you could make close to the same shape out of
existing pieces, said mixer would hold at most a few bricks, and then only
precariously (the way I would make a similar shape out of bricks would be
one 4x4x2 hollow cone, 3 4x4 circle brick w/holes, 1 4x4 dome end
w/perpendicular 1x2 plate. The only place it would hold bricks would be in
the hollow of the cone. Another SPUD not a POOP.

A large 1-piece dump-truck POOP.

This piece looks a heck of a lot better on a dump truck than in the rock
raiders sets. It also has a complex shape which would be hard to make out of
bricks, and the thin wall nature of it would be extremely difficult. Another
SPUD not a POOP.

While this set is over priced, I wouldn't say it is ridiculously overpriced.
I would be quite happy to pay $8-10 for a service pack which came with a
pair of road sections, and $5-6 for a service pack which came with 2 support
columns (and I wonder how many people would buy those JUST for the pair of
4x18 bricks which would be included?).

I would have to say that this is one of the most exciting sets of the 2000
sets, because it takes LEGO town construction to a new dimension. I strongly
suspect we will see another set use these new road pieces, and I think many
of our LEGO town councils will buy up these sets (James B - thought about
re-building your large bridge with these....)

Frank

etc. etc.

And a handful of real Lego pieces for detailing.

--


Paul Davidson

Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Paul Davidson wrote:

Well, I walked into Zellers last night and saw the big town set with • the
elevated roads for the first time.  I almost gagged to see how • juniorised
the set was -- it doesn't even look like Lego on the shelf, it's much • more
like some Playmobil clone with a few very large, simple plastic pieces • that
have no other use whatsoever.  Yikes.

I don't know, this set is still very much LEGO. Sure, it is a little
juniorized, but the biggest parts pretty much need to be that way to be
useable, without the set being a $200 set. How many bricks would it take
to make that roadway work if it wasn't made of big road sections. Those
crane legs would disintegrate the first time you touched the crane if
they were made of bricks. The only real gratuitous piece of
juniorization is the 2x4x3 bricks in the road support towers.

I just hope there is a service pack for the road sections, and that they
add intersection pieces (a wider curve radius would be extremely neat,
but probably won't happen).

--
Frank Filz

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  Re: The realization of juniorization sets in...
 
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Frank Filz (<FnL5Ar.4q6@lugnet.com>) wrote at 03:20:12 (...) Let's not go there :-) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)
  Re: The realization of juniorization sets in...
 
<SNIP> (...) of (...) Another (...) I would like to have seen this piece (and the Mixer) made from several sections, so that it could be expanded or compressed to make different size models. ( Like in the good old days on the 378 (farm tractor and (...) (24 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)

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True, it would have been an expensive set otherwise, but here's what I first saw when I looked at the box: Several large road pieces with no studs. Large one-piece road support POOPs. An enormous 1-piece crane support POOP. A large 1-piece (...) (24 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)

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