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In lugnet.general, Brad Justus writes:
> To LEGO enthusiasts everywhere:
=o0
Wow! Very cool, indeed! Great news -- just wonderful -- not unlike Xmas
morning at age 7!
Even though I suspect such a greeting here must have been long planned, I
cannot help but feel that my earlier message on "Proof of TLG's Concern for
AFOL?"(http://www.lugnet.com/dear-lego/?n=559)is "almost" being responded to --
a strange and magical coincidence to be sure -- mere hours from one post to
the next. My effusive thanks to any and all AFOL and TLG insiders who are
responsible for this great union at last! Me, I'm just whiner, but someone
else as yet unnamed has done his good deed for the year, or maybe even the
decade?
Now that the dialogue has begun in earnest, and with bulk orders in the
offing, I guess here is as good a place as any to start listing those AFOL
wishes (and in no particular order):
1. More Lego babes, and in more sets -- Whoohooo! (I meant gender neutrality
in set design...sorry).
2. Rerelease of old sets in cycles of several years, with no set or single
element very long out of production.
3. The end of geographically specific sets and ordering -- all sets currently
in production should be available from Lego Direct via Internet/phone/mail
ordering.
4. Competition with the Lego collector market through direct marketing of
older set configurations and parts -- and, of course, with TLG to reap the
rewards of this move. (Example: a premium price could be charged for the
rerelease of Guarded Inn, but not at the insane prices the set goes for in the
collector market.)
5. The return of the Pirate theme with enough Soldiers and Imperial Guards to
fill a field on both sides of the dispute! Toy Soldiers -- get it?
6. All elements in production available in service packs of all colors.
7. Introduction of historical or educational themes: The 1700s, Greek
Mythology, Vikings, Norse Mythology, Mad King Ludwig II, Monsters, Superheros,
etc., etc., etc.
8. Less "juniorized" parts.
9. An annual "design an element contest" where the resulting element is put
into production for at least a short duration.
10. Knock-offs, or something shockingly similar to, the slim double-sided with
studs, and double-sided with recesses 2x2 bricks that Tyco used to make. 1x1,
and 1x2 varieties would also be cool.
::wiping his brow::
That'll do for now, maybe I can dream some more up later...
I guess this means I'll have to stop being "The Angriest Lego Collector in the
World" now that I am starting to feel ever so much better!
=)
-- Richard
My weeny bricks site:
http://members.aol.com/blueofnoon/lego/lego.htm
See the Freak, read his demands, "The Angriest Lego Collector in the World":
http://members.aol.com/blueofnoon/lego/tlgsucks.htm
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> 7. Introduction of historical or educational themes: The 1700s, Greek
> Mythology, Vikings, Norse Mythology, Mad King Ludwig II, Monsters, Superheros,
> etc., etc., etc.
I concur. Greeks and/or romans, with roman soldiers etc. Just imagine lego doing
the greek gods. a lego zuse (how do you spell it?) with a bolt of lightning. mabie
a lego minotaur. how about some disvoery of australia type stuff like the endevour.
or some discovery of america stuff with a columbus minifig? There are so many
untapped periods in history. us cival war stuff, perhaps? but my all time favorite
theme would be:modern military sets, with a minifig scale f14 and a minifig scale
m1a1 abrams main battle tank!
> 9. An annual "design an element contest" where the resulting element is put
> into production for at least a short duration.
some things to add to this:1.the element must not be copied from any brand of
construction toy.
2.the element must not be an electrical part or other expensive part.
3.you must design a set that uses this element and the other elements must be
pieces currently in production.
4.the prize is a free copy of the set you designed. (on second thought... people
would design something that uses as many special parts as possible)
--
Jonathan Wilson
wilsonj@xoommail.com
http://members.xoom.com/wilsonj/
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In lugnet.general, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> > 7. Introduction of historical or educational themes: The 1700s, Greek
> > Mythology, Vikings, Norse Mythology, Mad King Ludwig II, Monsters, • Superheros,
> > etc., etc., etc.
>
> I concur... but my all time • favorite
> theme would be:modern military sets, with a minifig scale f14 and a minifig • scale
> m1a1 abrams main battle tank!
I'm sorry but I personally would have to respectfully disagree with modelling
millatry items on ethical grounds. Modelling classic items maybe. It is one
thing I admire about The Lego Group is that it has not resorted to modelling
"war" toys.
But Myths and legends defintely- How about Norse though? given Lego is Danish?
Or Fariy Tales?--- ()
Additonaly There is a lot of technic lego about ( specialism into Mechs)
but not suprisingly much for Architectural Design for older children(12+) and
not at Minifig scale as far as I am aware.
(We are not all Mechincal Engineers!).
Some Elements within such a collection might include (no pics unfortunatly)
Proper Tiled Rooves!
WindowS,Doors:
Wall Panels: Stone,Brick,Lapoarded etc...
Stairs: Risers ,Banisters, etc
Bathrom fittings: baths,Loos,etc...
Bedroom fittings:
Kitchen Units: Sink,Cooker,Worktops etc.
I would have suggested a name like (HomeBuilder) or simmilar for this.
(This would in my view be very very intresting to me! and possibly to those
that do architectural design profesionaly!
Or perhaps a set based on the house Roger Dean(a fntsay artist) developed and
which the last time I remember was sitting in a field in Breaky Bottom in
E.Sussex.
> > 9. An annual "design an element contest" where the resulting element is put
> > into production for at least a short duration.
Yes!
> some things to add to this:1.the element must not be copied from any brand of
> construction toy.
including Lego.
(a) Or Infringe on any third parties Intellectual Propety Rights.
(b) Or infringe unfairly upon those of the Lego Group.
(This is to protect specialist promotions.)
> 2.the element must not be an electrical part or other expensive part.
(a) Or unsafe is used properly.
(b) Resaonably within the "family nature" of Lego.-(See above)
( There are people who would want to devlope unsavoury bricks. Unfortunatly!)
(c) Sutiable for the age range intended.
(d) see 1(a)
> 3.you must design a set that uses this element and the other elements must be
> pieces currently in production.
Agreed!
> 4.the prize is a free copy of the set you designed. (on second thought... • people
> would design something that uses as many special parts as possible)
OK.
Nice Idea. Needs some work on it.
Additonally The Lego Group could set up a special Department for dealing with
contract situations ( such as Kitchen Design, Oil Platforms, Space Frames etc.)
and could gain considerable money from such systems,(unless of course it
already does so..)
I hope also that Lego Direct will allow us to make these susggestion in a
constructive ( ;-) ) way. The last time my little brother wrote in with an
idea(here in the UK) he got the stanndard "in-house" response. I assume that
The Lego Group uses this as protection against possible lawsuits.
Alex Farlie
BEng Computing Student
Dept of Computing
City University.
Northampton Sq
London
EC1V OHB
Ideas and opinions contatined in this posting are by Alex Farlie a Student at
City University and are not nessacrily the opinions of that instution.
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Farlie,A <ba124@city.ac.uk> wrote:
> In lugnet.general, Jonathan Wilson writes:
>
> > > 7. Introduction of historical or educational themes: The 1700s, Greek
> > > Mythology, Vikings, Norse Mythology, Mad King Ludwig II, Monsters, • Superheros,
> > > etc., etc., etc.
> >
> > I concur... but my all time • favorite
> > theme would be:modern military sets, with a minifig scale f14 and a minifig • scale
> > m1a1 abrams main battle tank!
>
>
> I'm sorry but I personally would have to respectfully disagree with modelling
> millatry items on ethical grounds. Modelling classic items maybe. It is one
> thing I admire about The Lego Group is that it has not resorted to modelling
> "war" toys.
TLC lost its moral high ground on not modelling war toys a LONG time
ago.
Otherwise we wouldn't have six shooters and rifles (that are
essentially the same today as they were a hundred years ago) in the
Wild West theme.
Spear = sword = musket = six shooter = rifle = light saber = ...
You can't be a little pregnant and you can't only make "some" war
toys and not others and claim to (or be praised for) only make
nonviolent toys.
Sorry to nitpick - I personally love the weapons and such, but I
have to laugh when I see people say they don't want to see tanks or
M16's but don't mind swords and knives (or rifles).
> But Myths and legends defintely- How about Norse though? given Lego is Danish?
> Or Fariy Tales?--- ()
Works for me. :) Thor!
--
The parts you want and nothing else?
http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
Why pay eBay? Run your own LEGO auctions for free!
http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/
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In lugnet.general, Mike Stanley writes:
> TLC lost its moral high ground on not modelling war toys a LONG time
> ago. • **snip**
> You can't be a little pregnant and you can't only make "some" war
> toys and not others and claim to (or be praised for) only make
> nonviolent toys.
> Sorry to nitpick - I personally love the weapons and such, but I
> have to laugh when I see people say they don't want to see tanks or
> M16's but don't mind swords and knives (or rifles).
Maybe there's no ammunition in the Lego universe, though we still have to
deal with the blades and light sabers. And I guess you could make a tank with
no ammo...
Do you suppose the new, smaller treads on the Arctic sets might foreshadow a
future treaded vehicle minifig-scale product?
Dave!
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Mike Stanley wrote:
> Farlie,A <ba124@city.ac.uk> wrote:
> > In lugnet.general, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> >
> > > > 7. Introduction of historical or educational themes: The 1700s, Greek
> > > > Mythology, Vikings, Norse Mythology, Mad King Ludwig II, Monsters, • Superheros,
> > > > etc., etc., etc.
> > >
> > > I concur... but my all time • favorite
> > > theme would be:modern military sets, with a minifig scale f14 and a minifig • scale
> > > m1a1 abrams main battle tank!
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry but I personally would have to respectfully disagree with modelling
> > millatry items on ethical grounds. Modelling classic items maybe. It is one
> > thing I admire about The Lego Group is that it has not resorted to modelling
> > "war" toys.
>
> TLC lost its moral high ground on not modelling war toys a LONG time
> ago.
>
> Otherwise we wouldn't have six shooters and rifles (that are
> essentially the same today as they were a hundred years ago) in the
> Wild West theme.
>
> Spear = sword = musket = six shooter = rifle = light saber = ...
>
> You can't be a little pregnant and you can't only make "some" war
> toys and not others and claim to (or be praised for) only make
> nonviolent toys.
>
> Sorry to nitpick - I personally love the weapons and such, but I
> have to laugh when I see people say they don't want to see tanks or
> M16's but don't mind swords and knives (or rifles).
>
> > But Myths and legends defintely- How about Norse though? given Lego is Danish?
> > Or Fariy Tales?--- ()
>
> Works for me. :) Thor!
>
> --
> The parts you want and nothing else?
> http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
> Why pay eBay? Run your own LEGO auctions for free!
> http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/
One thing I was wondering about on the "no war toys" policy......
We (rest of the world) are probably pretty ignorant of what went on in World War II
as it relates to Denmark. I wonder what TLC chairman KKK's father (GKC) and
grandfather Ole witnessed in the war. Perhaps what they saw when Nazi Germany
overran Denmark left an indelible mark on their concious decision not to produce any
war toys. It could have hit close to home, and KKK and the Executive Committee
decided to maintain that ban on 20th century war toys. Just a hypothesis.....
Also, I think it would be great to have a Norse/Germanic mythological series. Or
even a Greek/Roman mythological series. Vallhalla or Olympus, they would both be
pretty interesting. I saw the movie "ERIC THE VIKING", a funny spoof on Viking
movies. The Valhalla in that movie had large interior columns (sort of like an
ancient Egyptian Hypostyle Hall in an Egyptian Temple), and an almost Ninja like
exterior (those 12th century wooden "Stave" churches in Norway look almost Ninja
LEGO in their appearance). It would make for some interesting minifigs as well. A
rather stout Brunnhilda with breastplates and horned helmet...... I can hear the
Valkaries already.......
It might be better to have the Norse/Germanic Gods series than a Viking series (I
know, there's no real difference). But it might cut down on the raping and
pillaging.
Gary Istok
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In lugnet.general, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.general, Mike Stanley writes:
>
> > TLC lost its moral high ground on not modelling war toys a LONG time
> > ago. • **snip**
> > You can't be a little pregnant and you can't only make "some" war
> > SNIP
> > Sorry to nitpick - I personally love the we
> Do you suppose the new, smaller treads on the Arctic sets might foreshadow a
> future treaded vehicle minifig-scale product?
>
> Dave!
Minor correction: Those treads are not new. They were featured in the 1999
set 6456 Mission COntrol.
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Dave! wrote:
> Maybe there's no ammunition in the Lego universe
For what? Rifles, six shooters? Why would you want LEGO ammunition? 1x1
cyl. bricks are great for multiple ammo for various applications.
> though we still have to
> deal with the blades and light sabers. And I guess you could make a tank with
> no ammo...
Unless it doesn't use ammo and uses lasers, missiles, etc.
> Do you suppose the new, smaller treads on the Arctic sets might foreshadow a
> future treaded vehicle minifig-scale product?
I know I am going to use them for vehicles.
Scott S.
_________________________________________________________
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Affiliated Engineers, Inc.
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In lugnet.general, Scott Edward Sanburn writes:
> Dave! wrote:
>
> > Maybe there's no ammunition in the Lego universe
>
> For what? Rifles, six shooters? Why would you want LEGO ammunition? 1x1
> cyl. bricks are great for multiple ammo for various applications.
It was more a light-hearted speculation than a comment on what bricks can
and cannot represent.
> > though we still have to
> > deal with the blades and light sabers. And I guess you could make a tank • with
> > no ammo...
>
> Unless it doesn't use ammo and uses lasers, missiles, etc.
See above! 8^)
>
> > Do you suppose the new, smaller treads on the Arctic sets might • foreshadow a
> > future treaded vehicle minifig-scale product?
>
> I know I am going to use them for vehicles.
Me, too, probably, though I've already got about a gross of "conveyer belt
links" waiting to be applied to an armor model.
Dave!
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> > Do you suppose the new, smaller treads on the Arctic sets might foreshadow
> > a future treaded vehicle minifig-scale product?
> Minor correction: Those treads are not new. They were featured in the 1999
> set 6456 Mission COntrol.
The same size? Cool! I'd love them to be available via a service pack.
Dave!
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
>
> I can hear the Valkaries already.......
That's 'cause you're listening to Wagner. ;)
Jeff
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Gary Istok wrote:
>
> One thing I was wondering about on the "no war toys" policy......
>
> We (rest of the world) are probably pretty ignorant of what went on in World War II
> as it relates to Denmark. I wonder what TLC chairman KKK's father (GKC) and
> grandfather Ole witnessed in the war. Perhaps what they saw when Nazi Germany
> overran Denmark left an indelible mark on their concious decision not to produce any
> war toys. It could have hit close to home, and KKK and the Executive Committee
> decided to maintain that ban on 20th century war toys. Just a hypothesis.....
I have been thinking along these same lines. One curiosity is the
Playmobil set I noticed the other day at a TRU. Playmobil actually made
a small Civil War set. I believe it had one soldier from each side, a
confederate flag and sevel guns & rifles. Considering that Playmobil is
headquartered in Germany, I found it curious that they would cross this
(invisible) line.
> Also, I think it would be great to have a Norse/Germanic mythological series. Or
> even a Greek/Roman mythological series. Vallhalla or Olympus, they would both be
> pretty interesting. I saw the movie "ERIC THE VIKING", a funny spoof on Viking
> movies. The Valhalla in that movie had large interior columns (sort of like an
> ancient Egyptian Hypostyle Hall in an Egyptian Temple), and an almost Ninja like
> exterior (those 12th century wooden "Stave" churches in Norway look almost Ninja
> LEGO in their appearance). It would make for some interesting minifigs as well. A
> rather stout Brunnhilda with breastplates and horned helmet...... I can hear the
> Valkaries already.......
>
> It might be better to have the Norse/Germanic Gods series than a Viking series (I
> know, there's no real difference). But it might cut down on the raping and
> pillaging.
If it would cut down on the whining and griping, I'm all for it.
Ray Sanders
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Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message
news:slrn85va6k.4aj.cjc@zelda.ns.utk.edu...
<snip>
>
> TLC lost its moral high ground on not modelling war toys a LONG time
> ago.
>
> Otherwise we wouldn't have six shooters and rifles (that are
> essentially the same today as they were a hundred years ago) in the
> Wild West theme.
>
> Spear = sword = musket = six shooter = rifle = light saber = ...
>
> You can't be a little pregnant and you can't only make "some" war
> toys and not others and claim to (or be praised for) only make
> nonviolent toys.
Just to support that, Look at the pages from brickshelf:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1997/c97tr/c97tr-24.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1997/c97tr/c97tr-26.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1997/c97tr/c97tr-27.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1997/c97tr/c97tr-28.html
Those are pages from 1997 Turkish catalog. And these below are the
translation of the speech in the bubbles:
"We will attack him from both sides!"
"Alarm! We are under attack!"
"Target locked"
"Target destroyed"
"We've been shooted"
"Mission is finished, spaceship has been destroyed"
Seems pretty non-violant and anti-war, isn't it?..:-)
>
> Sorry to nitpick - I personally love the weapons and such, but I
> have to laugh when I see people say they don't want to see tanks or
> M16's but don't mind swords and knives (or rifles).
I just can't stand .."Me too"..:-)
Selçuk
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In lugnet.general, Alex Farlie writes:
>
> I'm sorry but I personally would have to respectfully disagree with modelling
> millatry items on ethical grounds. Modelling classic items maybe. It is one
> thing I admire about The Lego Group is that it has not resorted to modelling
> "war" toys.
These are some feeling in relation to the followups to this message.
I belive that The Lego Group should not model war-toys.
Some people claim that variou elements within current range go against this, I
don't agree. Castle,Adventures, Wild West etc should be regarded as FICTIONAL
scenarios which "should" have little impact on childrens views. The jury I
belive is still out on whether fictional violence encourages actaul Violence.
Perhaps if through Lego Direct or other iniatives The Lego Group could clarify
it position on this issue.
Additonaly I belive that acted conflicts in childhood may discourage real ones
if things are adequatly explained to them. ( I think that PlayMobil people were
once used in aiding children that had been involved in abuse cases. No nobody
could dismiss that as being wrong.) It is also a thought of mine that parents
should be prepared to assist thiwer children in some play with Lego in order to
explain some of the "moral" concerns they may have.
Also children are smarter than you think and sometimes will know that something
is just play. Of course on the other hand they may be those that cannot tell
the difference( and I respectfully agure this in point raised.)
In relation to KKK's witness to WWII, I belive that it is a private matter to
him and his family and that we should not dig to deeply. If anoyne from the
family wishs to speak publicly then I feel that we should give them the respect
they deserve.
Alex Farlie
BEng Computing Student
Dept of Computing
City University.
Northampton Sq
London
EC1V OHB
Ideas and opinions contatined in this posting are by Alex Farlie a Student at
City University and are not nessacrily the opinions of that instution.
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>
> I belive that The Lego Group should not model war-toys.
> Some people claim that variou elements within current range go against this, I
> don't agree. Castle,Adventures, Wild West etc should be regarded as FICTIONAL
> scenarios which "should" have little impact on childrens views. The jury I
> belive is still out on whether fictional violence encourages actaul Violence.
Not to sound too harsh but try telling the Native American Indians that the
Wild West theme is based on Fiction. What happened to the Native American
Indians was very much real and we should not forget that.
What I really think you are trying to get at is "Modern" war-toys with Tanks
and Machine Guns etc. I would agree that TLC should not go that far but that
does not mean that TLC has not released conflict oriented themes in the past.
In my mind at least 75% of all the System sets are conflict oriented whether
fictional or not. That is not necessarily a bad thing but I think that one of
the things that got this started was LEGO's contradictory stand on guns in
sets. I believe that the argument is that TLC's stand is that guns are OK in a
historical setting but not modern settings but even this has been contradicted
in some of the Outback Sets. For me I would just like TLC to make a stand one
way or the other and stick to it.
>
> Perhaps if through Lego Direct or other iniatives The Lego Group could clarify
> it position on this issue.
This would be great. Again if TLC made their policy on guns in their sets
public and then stuck to their policy I think much of this discussion would not
be necessary.
> Additonaly I belive that acted conflicts in childhood may discourage real ones
> if things are adequatly explained to them. ( I think that PlayMobil people
> were once used in aiding children that had been involved in abuse cases. No
> nobody could dismiss that as being wrong.) It is also a thought of mine that
> parents should be prepared to assist thiwer children in some play with Lego in
> order to explain some of the "moral" concerns they may have.
You are right that Parents need to take a more active role in teaching their
children. I am sure most parents are good at this but definitly not all
parents. It is up to the parent to teach right and wrong not a school system,
government or other 3rd party.
This is getting borderline off-topic so depending on your response to this
message you may want to send reply's to .off-topic.debate
Eric K.
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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>
> I belive that The Lego Group should not model war-toys.
> Some people claim that variou elements within current range go against this, I
> don't agree. Castle,Adventures, Wild West etc should be regarded as FICTIONAL
> scenarios which "should" have little impact on childrens views. The jury I
> belive is still out on whether fictional violence encourages actaul Violence.
Not to sound too harsh but try telling the Native Americans that the Wild West
theme is based on Fiction. What happened to the Native Americans was very much
real and we should not forget that.
What I really think you are trying to get at is "Modern" war-toys with Tanks
and Machine Guns etc. I would agree that TLC should not go that far but that
does not mean that TLC has not released conflict oriented themes in the past.
In my mind at least 75% of all the System sets are conflict oriented whether
fictional or not. That is not necessarily a bad thing but I think that one of
the things that got this started was LEGO's contradictory stand on guns in
sets. I believe that the argument is that TLC's stand is that guns are OK in a
historical setting but not modern settings but even this has been contradicted
in some of the Outback Sets. For me I would just like TLC to make a stand one
way or the other and stick to it.
>
> Perhaps if through Lego Direct or other iniatives The Lego Group could clarify
> it position on this issue.
This would be great. Again if TLC made their policy on guns in their sets
public and then stuck to their policy I think much of this discussion would not
be necessary.
> Additonaly I belive that acted conflicts in childhood may discourage real ones
> if things are adequatly explained to them. ( I think that PlayMobil people
> were once used in aiding children that had been involved in abuse cases. No
> nobody could dismiss that as being wrong.) It is also a thought of mine that
> parents should be prepared to assist thiwer children in some play with Lego in
> order to explain some of the "moral" concerns they may have.
You are right that Parents need to take a more active role in teaching their
children. I am sure most parents are good at this but definitly not all
parents. It is up to the parent to teach right and wrong not a school system,
government or other 3rd party.
This is getting borderline off-topic so depending on your response to this
message you may want to send reply's to .off-topic.debate
Eric K.
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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Eric Kingsley <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote:
> historical setting but not modern settings but even this has been
> contradicted in some of the Outback Sets. For me I would just like TLC to
> make a stand one way or the other and stick to it.
For what it's worth, when we have kids, Karen and I won't buy Lego sets
which have guns in them. And if we do currently get a set which happens to
have some, we give them away.
Little pointy things on the spaceships are ok. Swords and other
dragon-slaying equipment are pushing it. But there's a very real line which
guns cross for us.
We personally would prefer if Lego would stop making the guns they do, and
hope they never make modern military sets. But if that's not the way the
product line goes, that's okay too: we'll just buy the non-military sets,
and explain that rule to our children.
--
Matthew Miller ---> mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us ---> http://quotes-r-us.org/
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Farlie,A wrote:
> In lugnet.general, Alex Farlie writes:
>
> >
> > I'm sorry but I personally would have to respectfully disagree with modelling
> > millatry items on ethical grounds. Modelling classic items maybe. It is one
> > thing I admire about The Lego Group is that it has not resorted to modelling
> > "war" toys.
>
>
> These are some feeling in relation to the followups to this message.
>
> I belive that The Lego Group should not model war-toys.
> Some people claim that variou elements within current range go against this, I
> don't agree. Castle,Adventures, Wild West etc should be regarded as FICTIONAL
> scenarios which "should" have little impact on childrens views. The jury I
> belive is still out on whether fictional violence encourages actaul Violence.
>
> Perhaps if through Lego Direct or other iniatives The Lego Group could clarify
> it position on this issue.
>
> Additonaly I belive that acted conflicts in childhood may discourage real ones
> if things are adequatly explained to them. ( I think that PlayMobil people were
> once used in aiding children that had been involved in abuse cases. No nobody
> could dismiss that as being wrong.) It is also a thought of mine that parents
> should be prepared to assist thiwer children in some play with Lego in order to
> explain some of the "moral" concerns they may have.
>
> Also children are smarter than you think and sometimes will know that something
> is just play. Of course on the other hand they may be those that cannot tell
> the difference( and I respectfully agure this in point raised.)
>
> In relation to KKK's witness to WWII, I belive that it is a private matter to
> him and his family and that we should not dig to deeply. If anoyne from the
> family wishs to speak publicly then I feel that we should give them the respect
> they deserve.
>
> Alex Farlie
>
> BEng Computing Student
> Dept of Computing
> City University.
> Northampton Sq
> London
> EC1V OHB
>
> Ideas and opinions contatined in this posting are by Alex Farlie a Student at
> City University and are not nessacrily the opinions of that instution.
Since I was the one that brought up the question about whether TLC no war toy
policy was possibly based on WWII and the Nazis overrunning Denmark, I wasn't
asking for any explanations from the family. First off, KKK was born well after
the end of the war. And his grandfather and father (Ole Kirk and GKC) are no
longer alive. So that point is moot. But I did wonder whether the scars of
history have anything to do with this decision from a Danish or Billund persective,
as opposed to a Christiansen/Kristiansen perspective. Just wondering out loud.
Gary Istok
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