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(...) snip (...) snip (...) Thank you for the update. Being classified as universal colors really doesn't matter to me. I have no use for the new gray given their inorganic nature and it really wouldn't matter to me if they changed years from now. I (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Oh, and I forgot: It would be *very* handy to have a fuller list of 'frozen' colors, to know what to concentrate on... -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) <My opinion> The 'natural' transition to the new colors would be to have as many different elements as possible available in the *new* colors as soon as possible (bulk, mixed packs, etc). As long as only a few different parts are available, (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Benjamin Ellermann" <ben_289@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Hx78AF.zHr@lugnet.com... (...) interesting. (...) questions. (...) but are (...) complete (...) seem to (...) greatly (...) I didn't look that closely at sets in the 'normal' number (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, Lars Brandt wrote: ...I believe security there looks fairly weak. I (...) Here, here! That'd be mighty tempting, but the thrill would be gone after completing the heist. I mean, after I open them and add the parts and sets to my (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Jake, I for one really appreciate the considerable effort by yourself and LEGO in listening and responding to the feedback from a small group of consumers. I hope the negative responses here don't adversely affect future LEGO community (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I can't help but see the irony in getting something like this. We have wanted things like this for a while but if we were to get them now it would be to build up a stock of the new colors. It would definitely help with accepting and being able (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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okay, strike from the record the second blunder about not admitting the bad decsion. I'm reading apologies, pardom me. (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Jake, I have been quiet on the color issue since it was announced because I have been trying to determine how it would personally affect the hobby for me. This is my conclusion: I support Lego because I enjoy it for what it is, a good product that (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) You can't simply "mix" ABS like that. The colors will never blend 100% and you'll get swirling patterns such as McDonalds "Flurry" icecreams :) -- Jan-Albert van Ree (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I know you mean well, (read: don't take this personal) but I completely disagree with this. I know for a fact the the only thing that has changed in my 'wants' since I was 8, is the quantity. AFOLs are AFOLs because we were addicted as kids. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I guess I'm thinking about it like this (and please correct me if I'm wrong): AFOL's are among the most die-hard fans of the brand (low flight-risk) AFOL's account for a low percentage of overall sales (low dollar-risk) Kids (& non-AFOL (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote: <Frustration Warning!> (...) First off, when did I (or anyone from LEGO) ever previously say we were locking colors and no changes would ever be made? I don't recall ever having done that. And I'm not (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !
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Well, Jake, I admire your willingness to again appear before a mob to weather another volley. Those above you at TLC can learn a great deal from your genuine devotion to the product and its loyal (until now) users. I believe TLC has made its (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> wrote in message news:Hx9DrH.JCy@lugnet.com... (...) Jake (...) market (...) (and (...) who buy (...) know a (...) of (...) That's (...) that. (...) Coca (...) that (...) your (...) old (...) LEGO is (...) care or (...) (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Yes, old brown is wood, new brown is chocolate, sadly as much use for realistic modelling as a chocolate teapot. Rather edible looking too :) Mark (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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It's past time to get beyond debating the "why" of the color change (and especially haranguing Jake about it). I don't see any reason not to take Jake and the TLC at their word that the new colors work better with the core market at point of sale: (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.general, FTX) !!
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Frank, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the brown parts we love: Ship hulls. The primary problems with the new colors is that the new greys look like metal, not stone. In the same way, the old brown looks like wood. But a chocolate-colored (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Well ideally they would just go back to making everything in the original colors. I really wanted to like the new Spiderman and Harry Potter sets too. The mini-Star Destroyer set really irks me though. The perfect space accessory pack ruined by new (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Dave Schuler wrote: [sniparoo] (...) I understand the point, but I don't exactly follow it. The only way that sales are boosted by paying attention to AFOL feedback is with the AFOL market. There really isn't a way we can take (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I want to emphasize (2) as well with respect to the future of classic colors vs. new colors. Whatever classic color parts may be supplied it is of utmost importance to clearly identify them. This was obviously done with the limited edition (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I should take a moment to thank you for your courtesy in addressing my concerns, since I flatter myself to think that you might know my MO here on LUGNET, so I'm hardly the biggest income source for TLG. Thank you. I don't mean to lay a big (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) But how can we trust those words, if you already broke those words, despite your corporate values and such? Sorry Jake, but apart from changing the stud dimension LEGO committed one of the worst mistakes any such company could make and it (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I thank you for continuing to advance this news to us. I suppose it's really not so bad, as long as LEGO colors don't bounce all over the rainbow range every few years. Given enough time, I will be able to build a collection of the said colors in (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx9Aox.251s@lugnet.com... (...) themselves. Jake, then why can't we hear from TLC, the people driven company, why they thought reversing 20+ years of product design was "good." ? We (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yes! The 6 packs that were done for us recently used up 6 SKUs. We've been told in the past that there's an SKU shortage. Bulk tubs use up a LOT less SKUs than their equivalent in service packs, ne? Run off 2 or 3 bulk tubs with a decent (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Adding my voice to this, a new bulk castle tub would be fantastic. Bulk as in 3 cents per part, or lower mind you. Also, if adding the cost of the tub made the set prohibitive, I still think it would sell if packaged otherwise. Those tubs are (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) A few of us asked way back at the beginning of the thread this very question... Tracey (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'll add my voice in with Frank and Mike on this one. The bulk tubs in the new color (as some suggest, maybe even with Castle-specific parts) would be an excellent way to get the new colors into circulation. Maybe as a S@H exclusive or (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I suppose, you could be right, but I think it misses the entire point of why we would ask for feedback in the first place. Why would we even bother to ask if we didn't think we would somehow use it? The point of us agreeing to include AFOLs (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(this is pretty much a translation of what I wrote on 1000steine.de already) (...) Sorry I can't see ANY good news, all I see is a big PR blurb in a desparate attempt to regain some lost ground. (...) So much for your corporate values then.... (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Mark Bellis wrote: (and it bears repeating) (...) (snipping of more great ideas) I agree with all of this. Very well written, Mark. There is really nothing else for me to add. Jake, listen up! ~Kevin Blocksidge (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello Jake, I know that you have heard a lot of... concerns, but I would like to add some praise along with my input. I am glad that TLC has decided to retain the gray, brown, drk gray colors. I was terribly afraid that TLC had done away with these (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Ooops - *** I *** agree. I can't speak for you. (...) Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG / BAYLTC (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I look forward to the list of 'universal' colors! (...) I'd like to see train wheelsets (trucks)(2878c01) and decorative sides (2871) maintained in the old gray color. It would be nice to have some variety for train modeling. I agree that the (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I like my Lego people as classic yellow smilies too. I don't really like the new minifigs with different expressions and stuff. I like them yellow, smiling and maybe with sunglasses or a pirate face. But then I'm a 1970s-mid-90s kinda gal... (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) You HAVE to be joking.... there's NO railroad tie, either wood, concrete or whatever other material that has such a blue tone in it. They'd even do better to simply convert it to brown than to use the new dark grey color. -- Jan-Albert van Ree (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Thanks for listening and understanding. Sorry your ears are taking a bashing! You're doing better than other companies would do. Please explain the "good thinking" though. IMHO "good thinking" would be to make future new colours more realistic (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !
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Speaking of baseplates, U agree that 48 x 48 in Trans-clear would be fantastic (I could easily buy a couple dozen). But more importantly, can we have some BROWN large baseplates?? The 32 x 32 baseplate in brown was only available in one set (#232), (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I'm shocked no one has asked the following question: Just which colors are "universal" and which colors aren't? I'm assuming from what you write that non-universal colors can be changed, from time to time. As an AFOL, it would be great to know (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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The solid news is appreciated. Personally, I still don't believe that the Lugnet community knows the true reasons for the color change. Also, I don't think we have heard of the "good" effects these changes were supposed to produce. I have been (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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"Frank Filz" <ffilz-lists@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:Hx922u.IIp@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) minifigs (...) have (...) head (...) [ ... snipped ... ] We had a similar conversation at the NCLTC GATS show a couple of weeks ago. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm just eager that the track should not change *again*. OK, new light grey would be OK, and new dark grey tolerable at a push (it makes old dark grey look silly) but given that track pieces are some of the most expensive ones, changing them (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Just because you and some others don't accept that Marketing thought it was a good idea to change the colors doesn't make it not the "real reason". (...) I'm sure that some people within the company thought it was a bad idea. But those people (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Why not? There are always ways to get things. There are always fans that would help out friendly, helpful people in other countries if asked nicely. But thread hijacking, especially hijacking really busy threads that are apparently bringing (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote: Hi Jake Thx for the update. Sounds like LEGO is trying to make the best of a situation that went bad unintentionally. (...) Regarding the service packs. While I appreciate the gesture, I'm not sure it is (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Technic pins are generally hidden from view; their colors rarely matter (sole exception I've seen: the penny flag last year, where white technic pins were stars in the US Flag). Technic connectors, on the other hand... I look through my entire (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Jake, how long would it take to present us with some real reason for doing the change? I can accept something like this: some higly positioned **** in the management thought it was a great idea. There was nobody brave enough to tell him that (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote: <VERY LARGE SNIP> Hi Jake, Well, I know you've been reading this thread; I've seen a few responses already. I think there are two reasons why AFOLs are angry and/or upset with the color change: (1) The new colors (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Consider this an official denial. :) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) See, you sit around long enuf and it shows up :) Anyway, I completely agree with Larry--when you buy something, you own what you purchased, but that does not, in any way, shape or form imply (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Heh. Well, what can I say? I tend to be an "on the dark side" kind of guy... Harsh, perhaps--but is my assessment inaccurate? Aside from the bottom line, corporations love nothing as much as preserving wiggle room. Dave! (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Wow. That's harsh. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx92GJ.LJy@lugnet.com... (...) important, than (...) pass (...) 1 x 1 headlight bricks 1 x 2 jumper plates But Jake already knows this - I've been nagging for decent bulk amounts of (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hx93pr.vHI@lugnet.com... (...) need (...) brick (...) etc (...) I bet if you add this up, and add a good brick selection, you wind up in the several hundred parts range. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) My thoughts exactly Yaron "Webrain" Dori (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Maybe.. but perhaps not. In some cases, BL sellers may have sufficient stock of older sets that they are waiting for things to sort out a bit. As an analogy.. some oil wells remain idle until the crude trading reaches a certain level. I think (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Jake, You chose to take the worst possible meaning of "spin" (despite my winking smiley) and I am sorry for that. The definition I intended was merely the interpretation of facts to put the best possible face on a bad situation. That doesn't (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It's more than just *my* point of view, it's the law, at least in the US. There is typically no implied warranty of suitability to purpose or fitness that is attached to any good sold here. You would need an express warranty to have any (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) First- a "thank you" to Jake for giving us this update. What Ted has said here matches my thoughts. For my creations, plain o'l retangular sizes are what matter to me the most. As long as I can get the old color, I'm happy. The detailing parts (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) That's your point of view - the consumer buys a product from LEGO. Other's point of view - the consumer buys a product from LEGO which belongs to SYSTEM. (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello! (...) Well, you said "you can’t say 'the whole range of parts!'", so leave out this: (URL) and make all of the remaining parts available in the old colours. Make them also available not only in special bulk sets but in every set* you (TLC) is (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Why? I hear the WHINE, but I'm not hearing the WHY. WHY is this important, compared to other things (assume you're making a priority list here) Track varies in color in real life. It just *doesn't* make a high priority list of things in my (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) So maybe the fact that many AFOLs will not buy these rubbish colours for having no mud in their collections bears some good news for you. I think you will agree that i.e. a clear castle-wall in unique grey looks much better than a wall with (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Doh! Uh, well, er, I just, um, wanted to stay current re: LEGO developments. Hey, you're supposed to be in ot.debate! What are you doing here? Dave! (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Nooo...ooo! Chocolate brown track would be a total disaster! The track colour should emulate reality. Old dark grey for steel, old light grey for concrete or old brown for wood, but the new colours are totally unsuitable. Any change to the (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) That's a fine suggestion--I'd love to see (or perhaps love to sea) a modular ocean base a la the modular space base. I wouldn't even mind a green 48x48, while we're at it. And was it ever determined if the trans-white was officially available? (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) - SNIP - (...) Yes.. BURPS is a good suggestion. Most of us have enough old grey Lego to connect these together to make decent size hills. I think the same is true for the castle walls from another post (Anthony's I believe). To suggest that (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It is available in blue (URL) not as a service pack. The 48 x 48 baseplate is the most important choice for a part to have in gray, and it would be great to see service packs of that baseplate in gray, blue, and maybe tan, green, and clear. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hi Jake, I just want to add my comments on offerings for castle fans Since the color decisions seem to be final, I think that the best option is to ease this transition into the new colors. Castle builders will need basic bricks, wall pieces, (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx92GJ.LJy@lugnet.com... (...) important, than (...) pass (...) Hmm, the problem is that there are probably >1000 parts that really need to be available in a color to allow good (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Mostly the modified plates and bricks that give you good greeblization. The plate-modifieds for starters... 1x1 plate with clips (all three kinds), 1x2 plates with handles, with rods, with offset studs 1x2 tile with rod, 1x2 tile with one stud (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Ah, good to see you finally "noticed the color change". ;^) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Headlight bricks 1x1 round bricks basic plates & bricks in various sizes (as (URL) Ted mentioned>) 1x1x2 brick with hinge arches - 1x6, 1x6x2, 1x4, 1x8x2, 1x5x4, 1x3, 1x12x3 windows - 1x4x3 (brown) and the 1x2x2 2/3 with rounded top (all 3) (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Please add: 48x48 baseplates -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yes, please share. I noticed there was never an official denial to the rumor that the real reason was so TLC could recycle blue ABS into the greys, and red ABS into the browns in order to save money. Is this the real reason why you can't go (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It might be worth noting that this doesn't suggest that TLG will actually take AFOL input into consideration--merely that TLG won't make the change without AFOL input. The input might easily be ignored, but TLG can still claim to have accepted (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) track (...) Hmm, BURPS. Actually, I think you could almost get away with the rectangular ones. The triangular ones aren't that useful in bulk. I did use a bunch in my cliff scene, but only because I wanted to conserve rectangular BURPS. If I (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) What kind of detail parts? I'm hoping to put together a list that I can pass along. Thanks! Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx918L.CEz@lugnet.com... (...) anything I (...) Yes, it will most likely be upsetting. But it is my personal belief that we just have not heard the whole story as to how and why this (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello! (...) And so is mine. Thanks, Anthony! Bye Jojo (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hx91Ap.Cx9@lugnet.com... (...) 9V (...) know (...) Railroads (...) concrete (...) Hmm, if we're going to do anything with the track, how about brown? New brown would be fine. (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Easy now. Saying the three new colors are locked doesn't equate to others not being locked. It's a very good question about what colors are considered "universal" though, and I'll get back to you ASAP on that. (...) I didn't really mean to (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Thank you for the follow up on this issue Jake. As for what to continue to produce in the classic gray's and brown please review this closely: (URL) Daniel (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) With all due respect, Jake, this doesn't make me feel better. Saying 'Oops, it'll never happen again' doesn't really mean anything to me, because the change has already happened. If LEGO changes the colors again, what do I care, I don't plan (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) ...and ensuring issues like this don't happen again. (...) Only if you choose to view it that way. (I tend to be a "on the bright side...." kind of guy) To me, this is the AFOLs saying something (we're upset that things changed suddenly), and (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx8uCD.19rs@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) likely be (...) train (...) which (...) you (...) All five of the current 9v track elements should continue to be produced in the (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(snip) This is a fairly radical opinion, I guess, but I'm not convinced that the 9V track is one of the "key" pieces to keep in production in old dark grey. I know it's different but frankly, this is an area where reality DOES vary. Railroads (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm going to be answering some of the questions brought up in this thread as best as I can throughout the day and week. But let me say that I take issue with that idea that I "spin" anything. I don't try to, nor do I feel like I spin or in any (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake contacted me and has asked me to post my opinion as to what specific parts I'd like to see offered in Bulk that would make the Castle people happy, much like the old grey train track makes the train people happy. He suggested maybe Castle Wall (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx8uCD.19rs@lugnet.com... (...) likely be (...) train (...) which (...) you (...) I had a good think, purely and selfishly as a castle builder, armour, weapons etc, they will be fine (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) But, I know it's a blasphemy, but I think for Bionicle and Technic the new colours will look better. I've got new Toa Nuju and it looks good with the new colours. (...) Anybody knows why Peeron is calling the new colors DkStone and MdStone? (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Well, somewhere in all the "good thinking" you will probably find the word "Bionicle". Not even Jake would be able to put enough spin on that for us AFOLs to swallow it... ;-) Hence, the reasoning will remain a mystery to us. At least I have (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I was about to ask the very same question, Christian was faster... (...) Actually LEGO white is slightly creamy. They can make it a bit bluish, colder. That would match 'cold' gray better. (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) The first item on your list of "good news" confuses me. Are you saying that these three colors are now instant classic colors and only they will remain unchanged? What about white, black, red, yellow, blue and green? Those are also core (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) SNIP (...) This is fairly disheartening. Comming up with names like "Universal colors" is a big part of the financial problems Lego is having. Duplo for instance has been stuck with so many diffrent labels that many consumers can't find it if (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I was wondering about white...can white be anything other than...well, white? :0? Tracey (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello! (...) Fine. Becoming aware of something usually is a good first step into a better direction. (...) Yeah, great! We (the AFOLs) fight against those new colours and you (TLC) make them even more solid and declare them made for eternity? (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) change (...) Jake - get ready for some more griping. I hope you will continue to forward these gripe emails to the decision makers on this matter. Yes, this did open new wounds and I'm still astounded that TLC does not get it. But I would also (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake- Very good news! Thanks. Light and dark grays are our favorite colors for making large real-world models. Here is what would keep us building for a long time to come in dark gray: 1x1 bricks 1x2 bricks 1x3 bricks 1x4 bricks 1x6 bricks 1x8 (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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