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Re: Four sets reviewd, but only one good one, so be warned!
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In lugnet.reviews, John Patterson wrote:
   In lugnet.reviews, Richie Dulin wrote:
   In lugnet.reviews, John Patterson wrote:
  
Perhaps it is due to Flextronics not having the quality control that Lego did. Why they moved production to Juarez Mexico is beyond me.

(Note that I don’t know, and that I’m not wearing my Ambassador’s hat here). I would guess that costs are a major consideration, and that the NAFTA has had a bearing on this - keep in mind that the USA is LEGO’s biggest market.


   Perhaps very cheap labor, less than $2.00 an hour might be the reason.

Well, labour costs would have a bearing, no doubt. But less than $2 an hour? Who knows? Don’t forget that cost is not necessarily an indicator of quality. I’ve seen a lot of shoddy work done in a number of fields for a lot more than $2 an hour.


   Shades of overseas clothing sweat houses.

This I doubt. Unless LEGO are assembling sets by hand.

   Check the box next time you buy a Lego. “Components made in Denmark, Austria, Hungary, Mexico and the Czech Republic” John P

Excellent. An internationally produced product for an international market.

Cheers

Richie Dulin

I live in El Paso and that is the wage in Juarez, or less. I would doubt that it is too international. Nothing is made in the US, Germany, England, New Zealand, or Australia. Though some things are made in China. I would say that the international part is where the wages are the lowest and government help to industry. This all started with the new CFO. They might sell internationally, but they sure do not produce internationally.

Well, they do... you provided a list above - “Components made in Denmark, Austria, Hungary, Mexico and the Czech Republic”. Now, I’m guessing that the first two (at least) are not really cheap labour markets - but I could be wrong.

   Sell where the market can affort to pay, produce where the market can get very cheap labor. Economic internationalism. I just finished building 4996 and there is a difference in the quality of the bricks. Some of the slopes, 2x2 were textured and some were not 2x8, 2x4. Looked kind of funny when the roof was finished. Also, to save money and up the piece count they do not put the train wheels together anymore or the turntables.

Well, markets outside North America don’t generally get piece counts on boxes, so upping the piece count may have a lesser significance than you suppose. But given that they are not assembling these components, one has to wonder what they are doing with all this cheap labour you say they are using.

   When I built the Holiday (Christmas) Train I first wondered what the metal parts were for. Also I am finding the piece count going up, as is the prices, but far more “little” parts in each set. Some of what they do is not necessary. Lots and lots of 1x1 round plates, and other short plates where a long one would have held better. Also columns that are made of 1x1 bricks that are 5 tall. Why not a 1x5 brick? More pieces in the box?

Possibly, I guess.

But, on a positive note, it could be because that’s exactly the sort of thing fans have been requesting for years - don’t use a 1x1x5 when 5 1x1 bricks will do. Have a look back over the years here at LUGNET and you’ll find many similar requests.

   I understand why some people only collect the older sets now. Also there are fewer smaller sets for the family that cannot afford the larger ones. I often thought that it was nice for lego to do the small sets so most kids could have some legos. Other than an rare town set there are the mini’s and the little cars. I guess what I am trying to say is that Lego got cheap and penny pinching. Before they were concerned with quality. This is but my opinion, Lego is going in the wrong direction and violating the policy that the founder instilled into the family business. But I guess business is business. John P

Cheers

Richie Dulin

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(...) I live in El Paso and that is the wage in Juarez, or less. I would doubt that it is too international. Nothing is made in the US, Germany, England, New Zealand, or Australia. Though some things are made in China. I would say that the (...) (17 years ago, 5-Jan-08, to lugnet.reviews, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)

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