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Re: Color page updated
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Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:32:15 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
> I think we are loosing sight of the purpose of LDconfig.ldr...
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> The LDconfig file is meant to be a quick cheat sheet... it is meant to help
> standardize the colors used through easy to use Color Codes. It is meant to be
> made up of colors that everyone can recognize. These colors are simply, the
> colors of LEGO parts that exist in the real world.
I disagree that this was the original purpose of the ldconfig file. I can say
that definitively, since I was the one who first proposed the file here:
<http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=10066>. The purpose was that when *new* colors
were added, ldraw software tools would have a standardized way of supporting the
new colors. It wasn't meant to limit the available ldraw colors to the actual
shades of plastic used, or to make the dithered color ranges no longer valid.
> However, if you want a part to have a color that is not in LDconfig, you can
> still spell out the RGB values instead of using the Color Codes. LDconfig is a
> reference for standard colors and does not limit you to only using these colors.
I have never seen an official LDraw part that defines a custom RGB color, nor
any part on the part tracker do that. How would you even do it? I don't know
the syntax, and haven't found any part tracker documentation saying what the
syntax is or saying it's ok for official parts.
Plus, how many programs actually support custom-defined colors? If this becomes
the mandatory way for part authors to do printed parts, how many programs are
going to be broken?
> C) The transparent colors that are missing don't actually exist in the real
> world. The ones that you are refering to were made from the original 16 colors
> - not actually from real LEGO colors. The transparent colors that are included
> in LDconfig actually exist in real life. If you do happen to find a real brick
> with a color that is not in LDconfig; please let us know.
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> Likewise with the dithered colors. This system was a quick (and worthy)
> solution when it was created. In recent years, it has caused a great deal of
> problems. Again, these colors don't exist in real bricks, so should not be
> included as colors that LDraw recognizes as a standard.
Once again, it is a mistaken assumption that the LDraw color codes apply only to
actual brick colors. The the LDraw color codes have to allow for any color of
line or polygon which appears in a part file, be it plastic, rubber, metal,
printing, or sticker color. By saying that any part using a color in the
dithered color range is no longer allowed on the part tracker, we are seriously
limiting the ability of part authors to render a "good enough" approximation of
stickers and printed parts.
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) I never said that it was meant to limit, only that it is made up of these colors now. Please don't take this to mean that new colors can't be added, or that it invalidates other colors. We already know of at least one color that should be (...) (15 years ago, 3-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) Neither did I but if you really cannot find a suitable color for your pattern an RGB say in the form: 1 #F2F2F2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 part.dat would surely solve your problem. And I'm going to propose this to the new elected LSC. As for the broken (...) (15 years ago, 3-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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| | Re: Color page updated
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| (...) This isn't the first time that LDconfig.ldr has been updated - and it is just that, the file has been updated with MORE colors than before. I think we are loosing sight of the purpose of LDconfig.ldr... The LDconfig file is meant to be a quick (...) (15 years ago, 3-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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