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(...) I was thinking more about this (and I've asked Miguel to help me with the resolution independent architecture of the new LPub features), and there are two *different* issues here. Issue 1: I want to render everything in low resolution (to save (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Use of arbitrary elements with LSynth
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(...) Absolutely! Good point! (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) But since you've made the source for lsynth available, there's no reason why Larry couldn't attempt to add the string part to the code himself and then submit the patches to you for official approval. Right? Isn't that the whole point of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Use of arbitrary elements with LSynth
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(...) Not currently. (...) Thanks for buying the book. You are right, it does not cover this. Currently LSynth only supports either open ended or closed loop. No mixing. (...) Yes. It would. There are a *number* of things it cannot do.... yet! (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Use of arbitrary elements with LSynth [DAT]
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Kevin I've created an element that represents a small segment of string. It's not a real, legitimate LDraw part, per se, but I find it useful in my modeling. Is it possible to get LSynth to use this element? I'm looking for it to be treated similar (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers
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(...) Well I guess the above "ascii draw" diagram didn't work too well with proportional fonts. Oh, well. (...) Per Jennifer Clark's recommendation in private, I'm going to convert the pointer units from pixels to scaling factors from 0 to 1, where (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) Fixed. (...) Found it in part list image rendering, thanks. Fixed it. (...) I think that in the case of LSynth I can make this happen, but otherwise I think this is going to have to be left as "an exercise for the student". (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub request
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(...) I've modified LPub to ignore submodel parts as well as primitives when making PLIs and BOMs. To address your request more specifically... LPub would have to look for pairs of s/faxel1 through s/faxle5 and automatically substitute. I'd prefer (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
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(...) Thanks, Kevin. I'd like to see some good discussion on this here before moving on it. Does anyone have any comments, concerns? (...) Thanks! I couldn't have put that together without you, the others we were mailing with, and the community (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
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(...) <snip> Thanks for all your efforts Tim. Lets get started! I appreciate all the hard work you put in on this. Lets put it to good use. Kevin (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
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(...) <snip> This is great stuff. Thanks, Tim for pushing this forward, others contributed, but you certainly did a great job including everyone's comments and pulling together a cogent draft proposal for the LSC. I plan to stand for election to it (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
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Looks like you guys have spent a lot of time thinking about how to go about this in a fair and equitable way, very comprehensive. It feels a lot like the way standards are created in the high-tech world which benefits everyone! This is a great time, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet news:HDpArM.n2J@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) Why not have an invisible LDRAW part with color, just like the LIGHT.DAT? -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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When authoring new elements, how important is the level of detail in LDraw format? That is, for more complex curves and surfaces, is it necessary to get as close to the real thing as possible? As an alternative, is it acceptable to get pretty close (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers
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(...) The callouts are placed relative to outside edges or corners of the step image: Corners: TOP_LEFT TOP_RIGHT BOTTOM_LEFT BOTTOM_RIGHT Edges plus justification to the perpendicular edges TOP (LEFT, CENTER or RIGHT) BOTTOM (LEFT, CENTER or RIGHT) (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
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As Orion posted earlier today, let's revisit the LDraw.org standards body idea. [1] Here is the draft proposal I mentioned earlier today on LUGNET. I'm posting it here for everyone to discuss. Several weeks ago, I worked with Kevin Clague, Larry (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev) !!
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Hi Kevin, You've done it again! This is a HUGE improvement as it allows a much needed "step hierarchy", extremely useful for generating instructions - your step 0 is actually two steps. This is really great. I am probably being too inquisitive too (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) edges (...) Ah, this is different than what you first described. LPub tries to ignore primitives when making PLIs and BOMs. I wonder why it missed these. I can recommend a work around: PLIST BEGIN IGN PLIST END Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) I did that already just to make sure and got no error. Here's some more info I've found troubleshooting This error seems to occur when LPub thinks the X-Xedge.dat primitive are parts for the Construction Images and BOM. In other words LPub (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) Please try to run lpubtest.dat through L3P manually. I do not have a way to continue if L3P finds an error in the file. You may need to talk to Lars about this one. Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors? [DAT]
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(...) Try this: 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 stud.dat 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4-4edge.dat A little further investigation reveals that LPub quits on error no matter what the color of the edge. The exact error I'm getting is: 'L3P failed for file (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub request
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(...) The short answer to your question is yes. Ldraw only looks in the PARTS, P, MODELS, or current folder. Two extension folders have been added to faciltate further separation: the PARTS/S folder is for subparts used by parts in the PARTS folder (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) Example please. (...) Quite possibly. I'll run through all calls to L3P and see what I can come up with. (...) This is a good idea. Jennifer Clark first suggested this for pneumatic hoses. My first throught is to have a special end cap part (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub request
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Hi Orion, Why do we need to have the s\ in the DAT file? I'm probably showing my part definition ignorance here. Is it because LDraw does not know to look in s\? I'll fix the bug in LPub either way. Kevin (...) <snip> (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | LDraw File Format Standard Committee Update
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Now the furor over this topic has died down, here the list of people interested in being a member of the Standards Body: Orion Pobursky Kevin Clague Steve Bliss or Chris Dee Larry Pieniazek Ross Crawford Paul Gyugyi Jacob Sparre Andersen We were (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Some more LPub errors?
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(...) Some more on this, This idea doesn't have to confine to just color coded dots, it could also encompass lengths for pneumatic hoses as well. Maybe an added parameter to the PLIST BEGIN SUB meta command or an extension to LSynth. -Orion (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Some more LPub errors?
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I found two more things that are styming my progress 1. LPub quits on error if a part has a color other than 16 for the X-Xedge.dat primitive. This shouldn't matter since L3P doesn't render edges and colors other than 16 aren't technically illegal (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub request [DAT]
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(...) Even with the PLIST command, I still get a part not in PARTS.LST error unless I turn off the file checking. Here the example: 0 Test Axle 0 Name: Taxle.dat 0 Author: Orion Pobursky 0 Unofficial Model 0 PLIST BEGIN SUB 32199.dat 1 7 -30 -110 (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Orion, Please provide me with an example? LPub is coded to support parts\s directory. Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers
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(...) CUTE!!! and loads of new metas! many thx. w. (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers
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(...) Thanks Anders! Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet news:HDMB7I.1E3L@lugnet.com... (...) It really looks great! I'd better start creating a MOC, so I have something to test LPub on :-) -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi Orion, Go to Building Instructions->Controls and uncheck "Check DAT(s) against Part List". Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, I used the PLIST BEGIN command and I'm still getting the s/faxle1.dat not found in the PARTS.LST file error. I think (but haven't tried) that this problem will exist for any model that uses file from the /S directory. -Orion (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers [DAT]
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(...) Here is the top level DAT: 0 Untitled 0 Name: l0.ldr 0 Author: MLCad 0 Unofficial Model 0 WRITE LPUB PLI BORDER ROUND 0 1 10 0 WRITE LPUB PLI MARGINS 20 20 0 WRITE LPUB CALLOUT BORDER SQUARE 0 1 0 WRITE LPUB CALLOUT MARGINS 20 20 0 WRITE LPUB (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Preview of multi-level callouts complete with pointers
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I wanted to give you a peek at the progress I've made: (URL) is a three level design, with dual level callout images, complete with pointers to show you where the called out sub-assemblies are added. The PLI shows all the parts added at all three (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub 2.1.0.8 Available
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Anders and Travis, Thanks so much for all the help. I can hardly wait to switch to PNG support. Bitmaps are lossless, but huge, and JPEG is compact but lossy. It will be great to just use the one format. Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LPub 2.1.0.8 Available
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(...) I know that Anders already responded to this privately, but I'm posting this in case his response was different. The official PNG library (from the creators of the PNG format) has Borland C++ Builder 5 project files, along with some (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet news:HDLAnL.1482@lugnet.com... (...) I sent the one I have found, and used, to your private mail. I use it with Delphi 5, so you shouldn't have too much trouble with C++ Builder 5, which (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | LD4DModeler status
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I feel a little bad about the gigantic pause in LD4DModeler's (members.rott.chello...4DModeler) development. But I have picked it up again, currently I am fixing reported bugs and making the whole application ready to go 1.0 But also the long pause (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.announce)
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