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Re: "33" Slope Shocker... Possible name change?
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Date: 
Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:47:35 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes:
This problem has (probably) been realized by a number of people in the last
few years; I figured it out (or was it pointed out to me?) a few months
ago.

Yes, I am planning on doing a mass name-change, but after the automated
Parts-Tracker is up and running.

And the angle is precisely arctan(0.5), or about
26.565051177077989351572193720453[1] degrees.
Ouch. Now that is some number. I looked it up in both the Windows Calculator
and AutoCAD 2000 (expanding tolerance out to the smallest decimal -- hundred
millionths) to find out the your large figure rings true.

For the part names, 27 is accurate enough, I think.
*huff, puff* I'm inclined to agree. I may use thousandths or millionths for
detail work but recommend that every one sticks with 27.0 degrees to relieve
stress.


Steve
1) I'd recommend disregarding most of those decimal places -- I used the
Windows Calculator app to produce the number.
Thanks for your helpful reply, Steve. Even if we do round off to the nearest
one, At least things will *feel* better.

James J.


In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, James J. wrote:

Greetings.
    I have made a new discovery that may seem all too obvious to everyone • else
who has actually programmed elements in LDraw or MLCAD. My discovery is as
follows:
    All bricks listed as having a 33-degree slope are not named with correct
values. I always wondered what the slope on these bricks really were,
considering that the LEGO S.A.H.S. catalogs listed them as 25-degree slopes,
possibly to throw off their competitors. This was further compounded when I • was
not able to angle a pattern right so that it would fit onto a "Slope Brick 33
3 x  2". Today, I used AutoCAD to resolve my problem. Upon creating and
dimensioning a replica of that piece, as well as the 4 x 2 and 2 x 2 slopes, • I
found out that the resulting angle was 27 Degrees. Yes, "vingt-sept".

    Now that this is known, will have a significant change on things? I • don't
know. I'm not even sure where the 33-degree idea came from. Maybe it was a
mistake that somebody missed years ago. But that mistake has become a • standard.
Even though the SAHS catalogs list them as 25 degree slopes (closer to the
magic number than 33) -- and have been for years, LCad-emics have been • building
to  the list value of 33 degrees.
I would like to propose a massive name change affecting quite a bit of the
Slope category from "Slope Brick 33..." to "Slope Brick 27...". This will • make
it easier on later builders and resolve a whole bunch of confusion. It should
take affect starting with the next LDraw parts upgrade. Such a change will • make
it easier for other creators to develop "roof tiles".

    -- James Jackson
    "The other 'James J.'"



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This problem has (probably) been realized by a number of people in the last few years; I figured it out (or was it pointed out to me?) a few months ago. Yes, I am planning on doing a mass name-change, but after the automated Parts-Tracker is up and (...) (24 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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