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(...) Wonderful. So why does MLCad insert nonstandard data into LDraw DAT files? --Todd (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes: [snip] (...) Yeah, it's kinda wild. Do you think TLC have a list with individual names and numbers for these 3 different parts? They must. How else could they get the right thing in the little baggies. It sure (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Given that the 2 parts are different mabie we need a technic horn in the ldraw library??? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
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(...) I (...) has (...) Actually Chris, I think I have either all three versions or at least the last two in gray. The delicate ones came with 2 Space Dart-Is I bought over a 15-year span. Ironically, it was a thicker, more durable clip that I had (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Augh! You're right! I've got three different versions, right here on my desk. Specifically, I've got: Brown tree trunks, height = 44LDU, no internal teeth/tabs Brown tree trunks, height = 40LDU, no internal teeth/tabs Black tree trunks, height (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
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(...) If for some reason he has gone offline, it would be nice to be able to keep distributing the LGEO library. We could do it from ldraw.org, but 1) anyone have suggestions on getting permission and 2) anyone have the LGEO zip file? -Tim (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm, that's interesting...I just noticed yesterday that I got a bounced mail that was addressed to Lutz's address at that server... --Todd (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Many moons ago on RTL, someone from Europe (I can't remember who it was.) pointed out that the "horn" piece in Technic models is NOT the same as the palm-tree segment, the difference being the Technic version had inner tabs that would lock a (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
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(...) In something like this, it is possible (almost certain) that TLC has several molds, one or two could easily be the older variation. One interesting thing to do would be to compare the parts from 5988 against an older set, and see if there is (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmm. I just realized that the palm tree trunk pieces in my copy of #5988, Pharaoh's Forbidden Ruins, are the longer version. That's the version I thought was older. Weird *and* trivial. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
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I saw that the LGEO pages are down, I'm trying to use this link: (URL) Does anyone know if they were moved ? Leonardo (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Line in the Sand
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(...) In lugnet.cad.dev, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: [about INVERTNEXT] (...) OK. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Dave Schuler wrote in message ... (...) There should never be coincident faces in a part. It will confuse all rendering programs including PovRay. The color of the overlapping area will fluctuate (according to rounding errors) between the two (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: legality of entering LDraw files into POVray contest
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(...) I don't believe there are (or could be any) legal ramifications from you entering a Lego model in a POV contest. Just don't render 'Lego' on the studs is what I'd say, or make it too small so its unreadable. But TLG doesn't get upset at us for (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I was wondering, if I enter one of the models I've made into a POVray contes, will I get into trouble with LEGO because not everyone will automatically know it's not an actual LEGO sanctioned project, or must I only include information about LDRaw (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: [...] (...) Correct. (...) J subfile command line, and it only influences the immediately J following subfile command. I don't think the "and nowhere else" is that important. You already have written "only". (...) (...) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) would >LDraw represent a DAT which had layered images? For that matter, (...) If you layer the levels by a very small amount (.00001 or something), it'll render nicely in POV-Ray after being converted with L3P. However, it'll look awful in (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[Replying in .cad & .cad.dev to a message posted in .cad.dat.parts; Followups to .cad.dev] (...) Just a reminder -- (not to pick on Michael or anyone in particular): The .cat.dat.parts group is for posting parts in LDraw DAT format, plus any (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
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When designing a part with a graphic on it, like a minifig torso, for instance, is it possible to "overlap" image shapes of different colors, or must there only be one "level" of image on a surface? How would LDraw represent a DAT which had layered (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Should it stay this way, or should we move towards a more structured organization? If so, what are the criteria for membership? Does the group need a leader(s), and if yes, what is the role(s) of the leader(s)? (...) But it (or the JJ (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right now, the website pretty much *is* the organization. We don't have a membership list, or a secret handshake, or even a definition of who's in the group. I'm alright with this loose organization, but I feel that there isn't a big point of (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like your explanation better, but I think we're both missing the point: this paragraph is supposed to be about INVERTNEXT, not inversion. Fewer details are appropriate at this point. More details should go in (1) the explanation of inversion (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: WTB: Some Of These Struts!
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I was able to get the links to work if I added "/images" before the part number and changed the "jpg" to "gif" -Phil (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.cad.dev)
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I think you got caught by the move. No doubt the old URLs were good when you composed your note but they are not any more. They all have moved to Lugnet. Specifically, to here: (URL) the start of the discussion: (URL) post: (URL) that links of the (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It's (...) darn (...) Could you tell me the address of that site? I can't find it. Mike (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd like to see that happen too. But AFAIK I don't know of any reply from Zach Benz on the question. If he gives the OK, I'm all for it. Jacob would have to write something to make it run, I'm a dud when it comes to programming. -Tim (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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It would be great if the parts request list could be moved to LDraw.org. It's kind of hard to find. I'm having trouble trying to locate it now. Those darn *.shtml files... (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I would have to disagree here. I clearly see 'ldraw.org' as a website, since that's the name the website has been given. But the group of people is an organization, who uses the site as its central resource for LDraw materials. The (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: (...) That makes sense. (...) I'll reuse the notation. ---...--- (...) # Fine. (...) # I'll try a complete reformulation: 4 INVERTNEXT J This option is used to swap the definitions of "inside" and "outside" (i.e. J (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I've noticed something peculiar, though it may just be a factor of my own stunted 3D visualization skills. I seem to have become noticeably better at planning Lego projects in my head. I don't mean simple buildings like basic Freestyle houses, but (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd prefer that the group and website both go by ldraw.org. When refering specifically to the people, it would be 'ldraw.org group'. For the webpages, it would be 'ldraw.org site'. (...) Which updates? The new mklist.exe? Fixed versions of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, it would render correctly, but it would also disable clipping more often than is required, in the case of mixed solid and transparent sections. Think of a submodel where the author used color 16, and the person using the submodel renders (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It's an admin role vs. personal role thing. I took it upon myself to write up a spec, I didn't want to imply that it was endorsed by the group at large. (...) Hmmm. You're right. Inversion is no more global than accumulated clipping. They are (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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Can we pick one newsgroup for this discussion? Please? (...) I don't see much of a need for this, other than saying programs can claim they are "LDraw Compatible". (...) Nah. Steve (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Say, has anyone considered LDraw DAT file certification for clones? (I don't mean clone brands of LEGO bricks, I mean clone software of LDraw/LEdit/etc.) Some random thoughts... ldraw.org could maintain the official definition of the LDraw DAT file (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss wrote... (...) If IsTransparent(Color) Then AccumClip = FALSE takes care of solid non-16 colors (decorations) in parts used transparently. And a similar check added to BFC() can take care of transparent non-16 colors in parts used as (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Is anyone using my ldraw circle creator? It is great for making high resolution circular primatives for such things as patterned baseplates etc I am considering improvements to it but if no one is using it then there is no point. -- Jonathan Wilson (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: You can also put them on ldraw.org now that you have an account here. Here comes a commented/edited version. Lines starting with "#" are my comments and lines starting with "J" are my changes/additions. ---...--- (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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At 12:18 AM 12/12/1999 , Larry Pieniazek wrote: [...] Snippety-poo (...) Ok... I'd take a shot that there are maybe 1000-1500 LDraw users. There are a lot of hits to ldraw.org, average of about 70 pages/hr from a couple weeks ago. I don't have up to (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It's a SWAG. Probably exaggerated by one order of magnitude, on reflection... Fairly educated, though. Let's work the LDraw side... how many LDrawers do you think we have? I'll let you make that guess, you'd know better than I, but I'd be (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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