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  Re: My CAD development effort
 
(...) Hey, no rush. We all know that personal lives can get in the way of LEGO. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if (...) (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  depository ideas?
 
here is a idea. those who want to contribute to a depository, are given the user and pass to a geocities web sight? sent stuff through e-mail ofcoarse. i am making a new sight on geocities, and can be made for a depository (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  My CAD development effort
 
Hello, It's been a while since I've posted to this forum. Unfortunately due to an increased workload in my professional life, as well as other commitments in my personal life, and things like undergoing laser eye surgery, the release of the first (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) I'm not sure I want to do them all (though the list was much shorter than I thought it would be), but here's a start, the very first on the list. Here are the sets (that I know of) released since 1992, with black 1x1 bricks, sorted reverse on (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Sorry this is so long. I've tried to err on the side of quoting too much of Lars' message, rather than too little. Also, I've tried to be thourough in my replies. In related news, I've added a 'Current Issues' section at the top of the v4 document. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Todd and Joshua D. have an amazing number inventoried, between them. At least that's my suspicion. It's convincing them to make the data available in a format I can run reverse queries against that is the hard part. (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote... (...) I prefer the newer with only one new meta-statement. This easily identifies commands related to BFC. However, the syntactical change doesn't solve the discussion about the CERTIFY option, see later. I have some suggestions (...) (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) lugnet.general? lugnet.helpwanted? The current problem is that there aren't that many published inventories for current sets. So you need to hook up to someone who is A-R enough to inventory everything themselves,. Steve (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) I'm going to need to keep a vanilla installation, just for partsref generation. It's too tempting to make minor edits to part files in my regular installation. And, if I'm going to have two copies of LDraw, I'd rather have "working" and (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
[should've snipped the ng list, but I didn't--couldn't decide which to keep/exclude] (...) So, as both the new Keeper of the LDraw Library and the Keeper of the Partsref Pages, I could build a make, and apply it everytime I get new candidate files (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) at first i misread that as: (...) and thought to myself "wow, Steve's in a really cynical mood".. hehe.. guess i'm just projecting my own cynicism... J (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve: (...) I kind of like the newer approach. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
I haven't gotten any nibbles, can someone suggest a group better suited to answering this question? (...) <for one part> (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) This is kludgy but might work. Details left as an exercise. Your problem is that what you want is to know when a file is *new to YOU* not what it's timestamp is. Keep two complete sets of .dat files. One is an image of the state of files, but (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) You could try the version which comes with Cynwin32: (URL) used Beta 20.1; it seems pretty stable. If you're not too keen on using the Unix sub-layer (slow), try dmake: (URL) it seems to have gone commercial -- you have to *pay* for the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Yep, I'm familiar with make. I even went to look for one once. Do you know how hard it is to search the net for 'make'? I never could figure out a decent set of search-words... Oh, wait. I've got a make.exe with my old copy of Turbo Pascal. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Are you familiar with the make utility? It allows you to describe an arbitrary set of modules, with their associated interdependencies, and then re-build only the modules which have changed and modules dependant upon them. Of course, using (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Still discussing: (URL) and now (URL) I posted an update to the v4 spec just now. It includes the changes suggested by Jacob. Things have been quiet lately, so I want to throw out a couple of questions: Does anyone have an opinion on whether it (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) That's fine with me. The only downside is applying updates. When new parts are released for LDraw, I don't update individual partsref images and pages, I just regenerate the whole shebang. So any manual edits would probably get overwritten. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Off topic question Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
 
Nephilim <jthompson@esker.com> wrote in message news:FLv94v.I82@lugnet.com... (...) I've done the same in the past. As I see it, the thoughts of the community can be broken down in the following ways: (1) The purists hate the idea of any non-LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Yeah I was thinking that the third size should be a composite of four views top, left, bottom, and right. Should the floor be kept in this kind of view? Ie: Rotate Part over floor rather than 4 Cameras, nuking the floor only on the bottom (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
Excellent! After looking at them I think that other perspectives are more important than colors. Have you tried experimenting with the ambient light option in povray? I don't think l3p gives you that option but you can modify the pov files l3p (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) I Started this Several Weeks ago, I have already run Pov-Ray for the Thumbs and the Large Size. I have only the two sizes done so far. What would you call normal Size, I had not figured out a good third size any suggestions? All pngs, 128x96 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Speaking of which... I just posted my wants list. I want hundreds of most of the items on it. Someone pointed out to me that if I could tell of sets that had large quantities of the parts I might get better responses. Given the current state (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
One thing I noticed with the DAT explorer is that POV rendered images look _MUCH_ better with the lossless PNG format thatn with JPEG. Perhaps appropriate use of the JPEG smoothing function would help the the tests I did looked bad even at 100% (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) IMHO, the best thing is having both (a) super-quick-loading GIFs and (b) high-quality POV JPEGs, and then letting the user decide which one to view. A while back, someone even suggested having spinning/rotating POV-rendered images for each (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Old Parts replaced by Newer Versions?
 
(...) new (...) sunk (...) long (...) same (...) Yes there are actually (at least) three different versions of 4085 which increasingly strengthen the structure of the clip. The oldest (type I) version has the tips of the clip turned in and looks (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
Kevin Loch <kloch@opnsys.com> wrote in message news:FM32ur.BwF@lugnet.com... (...) I agree. Some parts--especially those with lots of rounded surfaces--can be hard to make out in LDraw. POVRAY works much better for these parts (and for decorated (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Cool! (...) Is there any desire to have povray rendered images for each part? I still think that would be cool, even though the ldraw versions are more useful for some things. It would also be nice to be able to either: 1. have all parts (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) I just added a statement on that page noting that direct links to the parts images are OK. Just so there's no confusion. :-) --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) No, it's OK: people can link directly to the images just as they did before at the previous location. On the splash page, it even says how to refer to the images at the new URL. --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Full range of colors?
 
(...) The LDraw FAQ is pretty comprehensive when it comes to the LDraw colors. LDAO does have a color chart, showing all possible allowed combinations for LDraw, but the colors are actually generated from LDLite. BUT, I *think* I posted a "color (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Ooo, didn't think about that one. Hmm. I guess you'll need to copy the images off to your own server. That's too bad. BTW, the primary reason I wanted to move off the WorldNet site was because I could never get an FTP connection to do updates. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Well, like it says on the page, "To reference a part image, when you already know the LDraw number for that part, use the following URL format. (URL).gif" In other words, linking directly to these images is OK in this case. (...) These are (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Full range of colors?
 
I've looked through the LDraw FAQs, and I'm casually familiar with the color palette available, but I was wondering if anyone has assembled a more-or-less comprehensive listing of the colors available for use with LDraw. (Mind you, that was all one (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
I could host the images if it makes it easier for people to use it, or cheaper for LUGNET. (I don't have any restrictions on direct linking). KL (...) from (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Arguably you're going to have to make copies of the images and host them yourself. That's a downside. I didn't have too much guilt over having AT&T pay for the traffic (presumably Steve isn't paying per byte the way Todd is). (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Old Parts replaced by Newer Versions?
 
Currently, my biggest pet peeve is 4212.dat, the 4 x 10 x 2/3 car base. The new version actually 4 x 10 x 18/24, the square section in the center has been sunk fruther in so that 2x2x2 town chairs in down to the first plate level. One long plate can (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) until (...) YAY!... love this page.. use it all the time... only Todd has a policy where set images are not to be linked to directly from LUGNET (Pause)... how will this affect those of us who link to the parts ref for piece auctions (ala (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Old Parts replaced by Newer Versions?
 
(...) For this piece, the only measuring gear you need is some LEGO pieces. Check to make sure the diameter & positioning of the clip is the same on both the old and new pieces, and (assuming they are the same) modify the original file. The current (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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