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  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Orion, you bring up a great idea that could solve the problem in the interum. Take all the parts you can find on Tore's tracker and in the parts newsgroup, put them in a self extracting archive or .zip file, and post the file somewhere like (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
I've been playing with ldraw and all it's wonderful part for only a short time now. What I don't understand in this discussion is what is the difference in an 'offical' vs 'unoffical' part. Apart from whewre I can download offical part what is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Ummmm.... Isn't that what the lugnet.cad.dat.parts newsgroup (or Tore's temp parts tracker) is for? You go looking for the part you want and install it. That's what I've been doing. What I wanted when I asked my original question (which has (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) The bugger here is that we could play what-if with the schedule all year long. I won't do that. (...) Why not? Aren't the users why the whole LDraw thing happens, anyway? (...) I would, but only to get it done my way -- quick & cheap & dirty. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
I mostly agree so I mostly snipped... (...) How does that help? That is, suppose it would take 40 man hours of work to resolve the bottleneck and get the new process on line and running. If that 40 hours avoids 400 or 4000 hours of user effort, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Fine, okay, you can call it what you want. The fact remains, something needs to be done. I'm making it known the only way I know how. The delay in the parts update system is becoming pretty unpopular, and it begs the question: is this being (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) It can't be "justified", but stamping one's foot isn't going to help, Jeremy, and you know that. I think what we need is an unoffical update. Package them up as unofficial and tell people to take their chances. But realise that there is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) This isn't really a matter of patience; it's been far too long than it needs to be. We need a better system. In the mean-time, the factors contributing to the delay can be addressed, and quickly. e.g. What are the factors holding back the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GCMJot.E07@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) Kinda unrelated statement, I intended it to reflect more the project as a whole. I think (and I accept that this will never be the case) that the whole (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I'm not understanding here. The parts are available in file form in a some cluster in some repository somewhere, yes? Publishing them, even in an unofficial process, would simply consist of putting them on a server. There would be little-to-no (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GCMIxI.BvL@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) Just sent another email to a few people about this. I hope there'll be some progress. -Tim (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
"Chuck Sommerville" <chucks@he.net> wrote in message news:GCMILA.AwH@lugnet.com... (...) I've been pushing for this inside for quite some time, with little response. Even splitting up the work for a big update among some of us who discuss LDraw.org (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Perhaps we could break the job into smaller chunks, like maybe 20 parts a week to relieve the pipeline pressure. -Chuck (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) Okay, this is getting ridiculous. We need a parts update. There are, what, hundreds?, of parts wasting in the pipeline. How much longer are they going to sit there? How can holding the parts for this long be justified? Give me unofficial (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Problems with reaching www.ldraw.org
 
Several people have in the last year reported problems with getting access to www.ldraw.org. The reason for this problem appears to be that the default "time-to-live" (TTL) for TCP packets is too low. I have now recieved confirmation that this is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
hmm allright. thanks -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GCJAG3.MM0@lugnet.com... (...) had (...) not (...) another (...) files (...) is (...) other (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
"I" didn't do that. According to the email that John Miller sent me, he had converted the model to DXF and imported into Bryce 4 for rendering. What exactly he converted from, or what he used to convert with, he did not specify. -- Terry K -- (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) ...I really think the demos aspect would be popular and fun. I'm hoping maybe we can settle into one of the classrooms upstairs and play/work in little groups on assorted concepts involved (I personally am interested in POVing LCAD stuff). I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
how did you do that? so far only leocad exports obj and i couldnt find a convertor for rest of types of 3d data files bryce supports. -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
(...) Bryce, or more accurately Bryce 4, is a renderer. It is a commercially available program that is very powerful, and the results are very good. A small correction here; I made a mistake - only one of the models was rendered using Bryce 4 (the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
Terry, could you please provide me with more info on "Bryce"? Primus BuS ComStar LEGO Mechcommander: www.go.to/LegoMC (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
(...) Happy voting :-, Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  May 2001 ldraw.org MOTM voting
 
Here goes, Voting is up an running for the May MOTM. (URL) models have been rendered in Bryce. Bryce looks a little different from POV-Ray - sort of another philosophy on the idea of "photo-realistic". Have fun, -- Terry K -- (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Where can I get a part number for a patterned piece?
 
"Franklin W. Cain" <fwcain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GCBq8L.BD4@lugnet.com... (...) night, in the vain hope that there was a URL to the current request page (if one existed). I'll use the name you've suggested. Dan (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Jeremy, You don't have to beg... I am perfectly willing to share all the parts I have created or updated that are either official or could have a multi-purpose uses. For example, the 1 x 2 C.V.G.S. Tile is a 4-color version of a 5-colored tile (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Regrettably, the only way I know of to get any of the DAT files posted but not yet packaged and released, is to hunt for them one-by-one here at LUGNet.CAD... :-( This is one of the reasons I was so thankful that Tore was doing the Parts (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Where can I get a part number for a patterned piece?
 
(...) Dan, I'd recommend using the filename "3626bpDM.dat" for this DAT file. Here's a URL for a partial explanation: "(URL) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) Which raises the question (for me anyway) -- where can I get these parts before they're voted upon? You know, strictly for preview purposes only...honest. ;-) Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) M'sieur Tim, I thank you for concerning yourself about the well-being of the parts authors. I, however, am one that actually tries to design new elements *during* his work hours (because I'm usually too spread out otherwise). As for the person (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
"Orion" <pobursky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GC9L4n.Dz1@lugnet.com... (...) That's ok. Maybe for you "what gives" is a part of everyday language, but when I hear it the phrase is usually associated with complaining, so that's how I took it. (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
No insult or complaint was implied by my message. 'What gives?' is just my way of being curious. I've been gone for the the last few month due to the fact I'm in the U.S. Navy and was just wondering why. If you find "what gives" disheartening I (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
(...) This has come up enough times, after a long enough time, that perhaps some mention of this should go onto the ldraw.org front page (just after the "Contribute" blurb), or on the parts update page, or both. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Parts Update?
 
"Orion" <pobursky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GC97Iy.5L2@lugnet.com... (...) Well, perhaps the fact that what you've already downloaded has been free (to you -- making it available has cost volunteers time and money) could quench some of that (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Parts Update?
 
Am I the only one disappointed by the fact that we haven't had a new infusion of parts in over 6 month? Maybe I missed some earlier discussion, but what gives? Orion (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) Or failing that, one of those boxes that splits a monitor signal to two monitors. Another way is using a laptop with mirroring to an external monitor. A raytracing demo would be a good thing! I see two goals for an LCAD presence: 1. Help as (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  RE: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
(...) I could give a hand. If there are any special demo requests (a simple POV-RAY rendering, perhaps), I could maybe prepare something. If we're doing demos, it might be a good idea to see if we can get access to a projector or an overhead (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events.brickfest)
 
  Re: LDraw meeting at Brickfest 2001 - Interest?
 
Hey, how about a more vigorous show of hands for who's interested in talking about LCAD at BrickFest July 13-15? (24 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: "33" Slope Shocker... Possible name change?
 
(...) And it's a problem no matter which notation you use - the step is usually around 1/2 a plate high, so do you take that off the rise value? I also noticed for the first time recently that this step is a different height for different slope (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: "33" Slope Shocker... Possible name change?
 
(...) Hmmm, interesting thought. I'll have to think it through some more. This would give us figures like: Angle Rise:Run 10 1:6 18 1:3 33/27 1:2 45 1:1 45 2:2 53 3&1/3:3 55 6:4 (not yet released) 65 2:1 75 3:1 Hmmm. Off the cuff, there are two (...) (24 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Finally...
 
Lutz Uhlmann wrote... (...) Good to hear you're back in business... I hope you are planning to update the format of L2P_ELMT.TAB, see (URL) current format is inadequate for a conversion table between DAT filenames and LGEO filenames: It only uses an (...) (24 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad)


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