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Subject: 
Torus primitive discussion. was( Updated Primitive - 1-8t0102 1/8 torus)
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Mon, 8 Jan 2001 05:10:50 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives, Steve Bliss writes:
Paul (et al),

Hello,
Torus comments are welcome from anyone who it may affect. I'm sure there are
others out there that will use these when they become familiar with them.

Sorry I haven't replied to this message, I've been meaning to, but I didn't
want to rush out a quick reply without thinking things through.  I'm not
sure I've thought things through thoroughly, but I thought I'd at least
throw this out.

Ok, give it a throw...  :-)

So, stumbling through this a bit...

Toroidal primitives can probably be handled similar to the way we've done
ring primitives.  The big difference is that it's possible to combine
multiple ring p-files to make different widths of rings.  This doesn't work
(very well) for torii.  For different (relative) widths, we'll need
different files.

Yes, I am afraid so.

The way I see it, we should stick with *circular* toroidal p-files (which
is what Paul posted).  We won't be able to accurately scale these files
into elliptical forms, but I think that is a minor issue, as I think we
won't need many elliptical torii.

I can agree to this, I think.

In terms of saving filename characters, could we assume that any torus
p-file is going to be '1-' something?  1-8, 1-16, etc.?

ok. I can handle it.

Also, I'd like to assume/specify the sweep of the tube, and actually split
torii into outer files and inner files.  The minifig head could use outer
sections, but it doesn't need inner sections.

I thought about this when I started working on the torii files. I didn't see
the need until I was working on the cannon part. (The exception here is that
I would still have broken the outer torus file apart and removed a few
pieces. It would extend into the hinge pin{stud?})
I will have to look into the sizing combinations needed, and see what
changes are needed to the spreadsheet. I think it will be quite painless.

Finally, I'd rather measure the files in terms of major radius (the radius
of the tube's circular center) and the radius of the tube, rather than
measuring the inner and outer radius of the tube.

After playing with POV quite a bit, I agree with this method.  This is POV's
method for creating a torus.

So I'd publish Paul's 1-8t0102.dat as two file:

4ti0301.dat - inner surface, scaled up to integral dimensions
4to0301.dat - outer surface, scaled up to integral dimensions
Why 4? Did I miss something here?  Also, would there be any need for a part
that would be 1/2 of each of these files? Or do we address this later?

I'm not sure what effect this would be, do we need to specify the torus'
tube(inner) radius if all the base part files will be 1 and scaled accordingly?


This approach won't help with dimensions that don't readily resolve to
integral numbers, which I think could happen.  Hmm.  Must think more.

I'm not sure I understand this statement.
(I understand the thinking part... :-D )

Anyway, LMKWYT.

Steve


Paul

http://www.geocities.com/pneaster/lego_parts.htm (finished parts)
http://www.geocities.com/pneaster/lego_todo.htm (in process)
http://www.geocities.com/pneaster/lego_todo2.htm (planned)



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  Re: Torus primitive discussion. was( Updated Primitive - 1-8t0102 1/8 torus)
 
(...) Because I was thinking that each section covered 90-degrees of the major circle. Otherwise, they'd be named 16t*0301.dat, since each is 1/16 of a complete torus. (I suppose they could be described as 1/8 of an inner (or outer) torus, but I (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives)

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  Re: Updated Primitive - 1-8t0102 1/8 torus, 1-inner Radius, 2-outer radius
 
Paul (et al), Sorry I haven't replied to this message, I've been meaning to, but I didn't want to rush out a quick reply without thinking things through. I'm not sure I've thought things through thoroughly, but I thought I'd at least throw this out. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts.primitives)

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