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            Parts Tracker part Discussion: x523, Minifig Visor with Feather
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            Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:34:48 GMT
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      This part is currently available here, but be warned, it's origin may change. 
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/x523.dat 
 
'Minifig Helmet Visor with Grille and Feather' 
It looks like Peeron changes the name on this part since I started it, Should I 
change it to match? 
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/x105 
 
> Reviewer: Steffen 
> Certification: hold 
> Comments: 
> No BFC errors, no L3P errors, no missing lines spotted. 
> Marvellous work! 
 
Thanks! 
 
> I question the origin: when I add a minifig head to this part, 
> it cannot look through the slot - dangerous for a knight, I guess. 
> You can tell me that this is correct when using this part 
> with the appropriate helmet and I'll agree. 
 
The origin was left at the pivot point since I was trying to match it up with 
193.dat Helmet 
The Pivot point on 193.dat is 5.5 ldu below it's origin. I believe it to be 
actually at 5.0 ldu below. I'm done makeing comments on the helmets. 
 
> Uhm, Paul? Small critics: have a look at this part when 
> rendered with POVRay. Can something be done about that "quaddiness" 
> at the top? Perhaps adding some sheared cylinder segments instead 
> of quads? 
 
Do you have this part? I know the front facing edges are a bit blocky compared 
to the rest. I started the part there. Much more changing there will mean 
inlining all the cylinder and sloped cyilnder primitives there. Keep in mind 
this part is a much higher resolution part than most all other minifig parts. 
 
> Syntax error in category and keywords: HOLD 
 
huh? 
 
> ====================================================================== 
> At Fri Jul 25 12:00:07 2003, the following review was posted: 
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> Reviewer: OrionP 
> Certification: hold 
> Comments: 
> There are several problems with this part: 
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> - The origin should be changed so that it is plugin compatible with 193.dat > (just like 2446 and 2447) 
 
Yes, eventually... see notes above. 
 
> - When placed on part 193.dat and the nubs lined up, a standard smily head's 
> eyes should line up with the visor slot. Thay don't with this part. 
 
Yes, I saw this too. I have remeasured the part several times. I even raised the 
slot by 1.5 ldu. (A little artistic change...) 
> - This part should fit tighter against part 193.dat. Right now it seems to > > be a little too wide. 
 
Here again... amazing what a small difference will make at a large zoom level. 
Keep in mind the helmet is modeled using 16ths and the visor using 48ths. I 
noted on the 193.dat and 193b.dat files that they were undersized by 1 ldu 
(diameter). Not much to really make a difference, but it is noticable when 
attached to another part. 
 
> ====================================================================== 
> At Fri Jul 25 23:00:03 2003, the following review was posted: 
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> Reviewer: BrickCaster 
> Certification: novote 
> Comments: 
> Many thanks Paul, this part is close to our castle-fan hearts. 
 
Your welcome. Also give a big thanks to all the Part Sellers on BrickLink. 
Without them, I would not have been able to obtain this part for modeling. 
http://www.bricklink.com/ 
I will try to get some of the parts I have purchased together and put up a 
picture some time showing the parts I may do when I find time. 
(I need to clean up that darn Adventurer's hat so it can be released with a 
"needs work" tag.) 
 
> Note about the helmet: 193.dat is "the appropriate helmet". 
> No other helmet can hold this visor. 
 
Yes, I believe you are correct. 
 
Paul 
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