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| | I was wondering if there was any interest in tracking down the original authors of Datsville and seeing whethere they would be interested in changing the license of the models for Datsville. Basically, I am interested in maybe uploading the town to (...) (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Anders Isaksson
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| | | | (...) This one's mine: (URL) have no problems with GPL or CC. (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | (...) This one is also made by me - (URL) - but that's a model taken directly from my old LEGO idea book, so the *model* belongs to LEGO, the .DAT implementation is mine. (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Manfred Moolhuysen
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| | | | I'm willing to re-licence the two models that are discussed in this posting (URL) (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | Any models I have made for it, go ahead and use it. (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | (...) Awesome, guys! I've been exploring hosting options on SourceForge. My preference for a license is CC-LGPL. However, I was unable to find this license in the list of available licenses. Also, I was unsure whether we may reuse the title, (...) (16 years ago, 4-Jan-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) By searching LUGNET I was able to determine that you created a petroleum station, but I couldn't find the actual model. Could you please re-upload this file? Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | (...) I finally got around to creating a repository. You can find it here: (URL) are only a few files in "trunk/". I need to contact all the original authors for permission to use their models. Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | (...) Forgot to add: 1) The license for programming code (POV-Ray, etc.) is LGPL. 2) The license for content (LDraw models, etc.) is CC-BY-SA. Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | (...) Here's a link to the project's wiki: (URL) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | | (...) tanders.dat - Original title "My Home", made by me, free to use under any license. It was originally built in BlockCAD when the world travelling minifigs Colin & Wanda visited me in 1999. (URL) - Original title "My little summer house", but (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | 404's at LGPL Datsville Page Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) There are broken links at start page (Project Home\Summary) * The current list of permissions is here. * Some useful links are here. Click on "here" at both link and you'll get a 404. They worked before, but not any longer. /Tore (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 404's at LGPL Datsville Page Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) Should be working again. I moved them to a sub-folder and forgot to update the links. Mike (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Datsville Lite Zip Problems (Was: 404's...) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) Now it works. Thanks! Next problem: I can't unzip the Datsville Lite archive at (URL) winzip and winrar says unknown method. /Tore the Troublemaker :) (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Datsville Lite Zip Problems (Was: 404's...) Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) Uh-oh! That's a problem! I used 7-zip to create the archives. I hope none of my other files suffer from this as well. In the meantime, you can also get DV lite from here: (URL) (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: Datsville Lite Zip Problems (Was: 404's...) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) No, that's not a problem anymore. I just installed 7-zip and unzipped the file instantly. All I needed was that info. Thanks again, Mike. /Tore (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | When loading the Datsville MPD file in MLCAD, it asks for two files that I can't find anywhere. 1. plnxzb.dat 2. 606p01b.dat Anyone know where I can find these, or how to resolve the issue? It also reports an error for "tmmayor.dat", but I think I (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Tmmayor.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | (...) Try this one, I don't know the status for it, and it looks a little wierd, but no errors. /Tore 0 Datsville Mayor 0 Name: Mlzmayor.ldr 0 Was: Tmmayor.dat 0 Author: Leonardo Zide 0 Unofficial Datsville Minifig Model 0 Parent: Bjvthall.ldr 0 (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) Please tell me where the reference to plnxzb.dat is. (Parent file, line nr) /Tore 0 Datsville Baseplate 0 Name: 606p01b.dat 0 Author: John VanZwieten 0 Inlined:1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 606p01.dat 0 Baseplate 32 x 32 Road Straight with Road (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) It's in town_full.dat, right after tbfire.dat. By the file name it sounds like a "plane" for the "X" and "Z" axes. So it probably was just used for orienting other models. Would it be safe to simply replace 606p01b.dat with 606p01.dat? Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | (...) In fact, come to think of it, I probably added it myself when I was working with the file years ago! ;) Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks, I'll have a look at it. (...) I'm not sure. Check if there'll be any color changes. It may have been inlined first, then color edited. But that sounds like an awkward way to go(?) If you see no color difference, just replace the (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) I've checked this out now, and you can't replace 606p01b.dat with 606p01.dat. It will not come out with the same colors, regardless which main color you use in the calling Type 1 line. /Tore (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) Is it an official part? Why isn't it included with the official distribution? Mike (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) After searching Peeron and BrickLink, I think that this is not a real LEGO part. There are more of them in Datsville. (...) If it is an existing LEGO part (which I tend to doubt), the .dat file may not have been submitted to the Tracker. Those (...) (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: 606p01b.dat (Was: LGPL Datsville) Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) Maybe we can replace them after all. Look at this picture: (URL) orange poles indicate the occurances of x606p01b.dat. They are all in undeveloped areas, so I think it's possible to replace them with other roadplates. /Tore (15 years ago, 3-Mar-10, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | (...) All models I have created for Datsville are to be treated as Public Domain. Feel free to use it, update file headers and part references, file names, file extensions etc. If anyone is interested in my work to rename, categorize, edit headers, (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) Thanks! But, is PD compatible with a LGPL or CC project? (...) I'd like a copy. Do you have any documentation describing what you did and why you did it? Mike (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | (...) I haven't got a clue. Never heard of LGPL or CC before. But I would be very surprised if my terms is more restricted in any way. My terms are: use my exactly how you like to as long as I have the right to use them the way I like. (...) I guess (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, the main difference (I think) is that if someone modifies a LGPL or CC work and distributes it on the Internet or something, he or she must also allow other people to do the same with their modified version. There are also some (...) (15 years ago, 22-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) Sorry. I just reread that and it's full of grammar mistakes. Mike (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | | (...) By no means worse than mine. I'll try to contact Martin Svensson (now Palmberg) about the Post office building. I'm certain he has no objections that we use his work. /Tore (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) Awesome! I'll try contacting some other people this evening. Mike (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) BTW, (URL) contains an updated version of my petrol station (I forget exactly how I made the stickers although they are copied of stickers from an official set) that was used when the petrol station was entered into (and won) the MOTM contest (...) (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) Thanks. I've uploaded it to the repository. Unfortunately, the Shell logos are trademarked and may be unusable (rather un-relicens-able). Mike (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) Or, "un-re-license-able". :) Mike (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) I, Tore Eriksson and Martin Palmberg, former Martin Svensson, accept the terms of LGPL and/or CC as applied to our works in the Datsville project(s). In case of LGPL and/or CC are somerhow incompatible with PD, our works are no longer PD. On (...) (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | Here's a table of models. It includes some new submissions. (URL) (15 years ago, 23-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | (...) Please feel free to include my petrol hoses found in _bjwgs51.ldr as used in _bjwgas5.ldr from my unoffocial Datsville files. Rename, inline, and alter at will. It says "Author: Jonathan Wilson", but I think I made the hoses and forgot to (...) (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | I plan on using your revisions as a basis once more people start coming forward with their permissions. No need to re-invent the wheel. Also, if you would like to become a project member you can make modifications directly to the repository. I think (...) (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | | (...) Of course, that offer extends to anyone else here who would like to be made a member. Mike (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | | (...) That would be really cool! Just review them carefully first since I may have made some fatal mistakes, like at the Town Hall. I just corrected one at the Water Tower. I think it was due to the unofficial version of a part was differently (...) (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | (...) That wouldn't work. The MOC would have to be unrecognizable when compared to the TLC version. Mike (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | (...) 'protected' in an image. The email to use should be blockcad@gmail.com (15 years ago, 24-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) Sure thing. You *do* realize don't you that your email appears on each post you make when viewed using the LUGNET web interface? That's where I got it from. Mike (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | (...) Thanks. Well, the displayed adress at lugnet at least contains a 'spamblock' which makes it not *directly* useful (although any harvester is probably able to REMOVE the right thing from it...)., but I should probably change that too... It's (...) (15 years ago, 25-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | I just sent an email out to the remainder of the original contributers. Hopefully they will reply soon. -- Michael Horvath mikh2161@gmail.com (URL) (15 years ago, 16-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) Get any nibbles yet? /Tore (15 years ago, 17-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | (...) Bram Lambrecht and Duane Hess gave their permission. My emails to Joachim Probst, Nicholas Allan, Rob Farver, Brian Sauls, Thomas Burger and Calvin Walton all bounced back. (15 years ago, 22-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Calvin Walton
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| | | | | | | (...) (I originally sent this to Michael Horvath directly, but I can post to Lugnet now, so for the public record...) Looks like you got lucky, I just happened to be poking around in some of my old bookmarks today and browsed the Lugnet news page (...) (15 years ago, 5-Jan-10, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | By the way, did you ever try and join the Google Code project? (15 years ago, 22-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | (...) Well, yes and no. I clicked on a join link, but it read something like I should contact the owner of the project to join. /T (15 years ago, 22-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | | (...) If you email me your username I'll add you to the project. (15 years ago, 26-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | I created a short "to do" list here: (URL) there are any other ideas of what you'd like to see done, I'd like to hear them. (15 years ago, 22-Dec-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | (...) I'm open to changing the license. (L)GPL is fine with me. I think the same goes for the Creative Commons licenses, but I would have to take a look to make sure. (...) A publicly visible version control repository is a very good idea. (Wouldn't (...) (11 years ago, 26-Nov-13, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | Got around to read the other parts of the thread... (...) Please consider my contributions licensed under CC-BY-SA. My current, primary e-mail address is <jacob@sparre-andersen.dk>. Play well, Jacob (5 URLs) (11 years ago, 26-Nov-13, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Michael Horvath
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| | | | (...) Thank you so much!! I hope you are doing well. Michael (11 years ago, 27-Nov-13, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LGPL Datsville Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | (...) Not doing much LEGO CAD at the moment, but otherwise doing well. Play well, Jacob (11 years ago, 28-Nov-13, to lugnet.cad)
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