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Re: HMLS Snottler III
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Tue, 2 Jul 2002 23:56:22 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> Every iteration of the Almighty Snottler (why does that sound so
> disgusting when I say it? ;) ) is more impressive than the one
> before.
Thanks!
> I like the way you've upscaled this version, which allows
> you to really explore the detail and make the ship "correct" both
> in body form and in its structures in spite of compression issues.
> The missile housing fore of the conning tower is an especially neat
> touch. The only point where scale begins to break down is with the
> heliport--would it be possible to recess the hangar into the hull,
> or rebuild the chopper for a narrower housing (the Sea Kings do,
> in fact, fold rotors for stowage)? An after structure could then
> dominate the silhouette very nicely and break up the rectilinear
> hangar effect.
The helicopter is about as small as I could get it, while preserving the
general shape, side-by-side seating, and clearance underneath for the torpedo.
The hangar could be narrowed (by four studs if necessary - I left clearance
in the hangar for workbenches and workspace), and shortened by two studs.
Unfortunately, the roof cannot be lowered... though, as you point out, the
floor could be (losing head room in the engine room and crew accomodations
below). Hmmmm. I'd have to incorporate a ramp up to the helipad though.
> Incidentally, have you looked into getting plans of the predecessors
> of those actual ships?
I have looked into it, but not gone as far as getting them... the Royal
Australian Navy offers drawings of the ANZAC, FFG and older frigates
(http://www.navy.gov.au/models/modelff.html). I spent a lot of time looking
out my office window visiting ANZAC frigates on Sydney Harbour....
(I've got to look at something out there now the Bounty replica is away!)
> I know those currently operational must be
> classified, but I know that the Smithsonian and NARA in the United
> States do offer plans of the first generation of flare-bow FFGs from
> the USN. Those should give you frame-by-frame hull cross-sections
> which are an excellent guide--I'm using _Takao's_ frame sections for
> my own reference, though I did not get those from an archival source.
> (I also mention this because the plans are also available for older
> ships--including 18th-century craft, both military and civilian--and
> given the complexity of the curves you'll be dealing with, the more
> the relief drawings, the better!)
>
> Your SNOT-sailing-ship project is something I find intriguing! I'd
> harbored (ha!) dreams of producing a mostly-brown frigate or galleon;
> one day, I may still do it. But the principle should be sound, if
> collecting the requisite amount of the right colors to do it is harder.
I think the most difficult part will be producing the requisite beam,
without overly 'stepping' the bow. I've considered using SNOT hinges to
assist... with studs pointing outwards at the sides, curving around to studs
forward at the front.
> I've logicked a fair amount of the engineering out in idle moments
> at departmental meetings and waiting rooms, so if you want to brain-
> storm feel free to email. Alas, I'm not planning to actually build
> one before I leave in August, so any speculations won't have the benefit
> of practice. But sure as shootin' I'd adore seeing a SNOT pirate!
> Hm, now THAT sounds disgusting.
>
> (Incidentally, I'm producing the new cruiser to be "revealable"--that
> is, it can be opened up laterally to expose the interior, but off-
> center so that centerline machinery and ducting (funnels, barbettes,
> etc.) won't have to be split. So this has brought on new and painful
> engineering problems that might be of interest--or at least their
> solutions might be.)
Definitely! I need better engineering all round. I was removing the Snottler
from its berth atop a 6' bookshelf on the weekend, and part of the centre
section decided to give way... fortunately family members were on hand to
provide assistance...
> I'm looking forward to Snottler IV: Electric Boogaloo! ;)
Well, I'm currently working on my sailing fleet (the Eponine's being rebuilt
from Brig to Frigate) for a French expedition to the South Seas, but the
more I think about it, the more likely the Snottler successor (with a
recessed hangar) will be the project after that.
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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