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Re: HMLS Snottler III
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Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:38:04 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:
> Ahoy!
>
> I've uploaded some pics of the third in my line of SNOT hulled naval ships,
> this one is a modern Guided Missile Frigate, fully kitted out for modern
> warfare other roles. It was enveiled at LUG'OZ 2002 on Sunday. Blockade
> enforcement and Border Protection are popular roles in Australia at the moment.
< (snippage)
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> The photos are at:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=18846
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> More (and hopefully better) photos to come.
Richie-
Every iteration of the Almighty Snottler (why does that sound so
disgusting when I say it? ;) ) is more impressive than the one
before. I like the way you've upscaled this version, which allows
you to really explore the detail and make the ship "correct" both
in body form and in its structures in spite of compression issues.
The missile housing fore of the conning tower is an especially neat
touch. The only point where scale begins to break down is with the
heliport--would it be possible to recess the hangar into the hull,
or rebuild the chopper for a narrower housing (the Sea Kings do,
in fact, fold rotors for stowage)? An after structure could then
dominate the silhouette very nicely and break up the rectilinear
hangar effect.
Incidentally, have you looked into getting plans of the predecessors
of those actual ships? I know those currently operational must be
classified, but I know that the Smithsonian and NARA in the United
States do offer plans of the first generation of flare-bow FFGs from
the USN. Those should give you frame-by-frame hull cross-sections
which are an excellent guide--I'm using _Takao's_ frame sections for
my own reference, though I did not get those from an archival source.
(I also mention this because the plans are also available for older
ships--including 18th-century craft, both military and civilian--and
given the complexity of the curves you'll be dealing with, the more
the relief drawings, the better!)
Your SNOT-sailing-ship project is something I find intriguing! I'd
harbored (ha!) dreams of producing a mostly-brown frigate or galleon;
one day, I may still do it. But the principle should be sound, if
collecting the requisite amount of the right colors to do it is harder.
I've logicked a fair amount of the engineering out in idle moments
at departmental meetings and waiting rooms, so if you want to brain-
storm feel free to email. Alas, I'm not planning to actually build
one before I leave in August, so any speculations won't have the benefit
of practice. But sure as shootin' I'd adore seeing a SNOT pirate!
Hm, now THAT sounds disgusting.
(Incidentally, I'm producing the new cruiser to be "revealable"--that
is, it can be opened up laterally to expose the interior, but off-
center so that centerline machinery and ducting (funnels, barbettes,
etc.) won't have to be split. So this has brought on new and painful
engineering problems that might be of interest--or at least their
solutions might be.)
I'm looking forward to Snottler IV: Electric Boogaloo! ;)
all best
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| (...) I really hate to butt in here, but you took the idea right out of my head! After that experiement building a to-scale (non-SNOT) sloop a while back, and then pirating the SNOT technique on my Canopus-class Pre-Dreadnought, I've been gathering (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.build.military)
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| (...) Thanks! (...) The helicopter is about as small as I could get it, while preserving the general shape, side-by-side seating, and clearance underneath for the torpedo. The hangar could be narrowed (by four studs if necessary - I left clearance (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.build.military)
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