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Re: WWII Creations: Panzer III and Stuka
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Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:28:51 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> >
> > The tank treads are the old-style technic conveyor-belt/tread links. You can
> > still order them through LEGO Pitsco Dacta ...
>
> Yeah--those are excellent things to own. They've got me full of
> AFV dreams...
>
> Out of curiosity, Shaun: Where did you get your interior shots of
> the Pz III? I'm digging around looking for authoritative data on
> the interior of the 38(t), now that I can actually build again,
> and I'm getting impatient.
Hi Lindsay,
I didn't pay as *much* attention as I would have liked to to interior
design as I did to the exterior ... that is something I would
definitely like to go back and address. The largest lapse is in the
turret - minifig proportionas make fitting multiple bodies in the
turret a huge challenge. Carl did a pretty good job, I didn't do as
well ... the front section (driver and machinegunner/radioman) is
pretty accurate though, I believe. Most of the interior information for the
Panzer III came primarily from one book, which is The Encyclopedia of German
Tanks of World War Two by Peter Chambelain and Hilary Doyle; this book is
fantastic, with sections on the specific weaponry, radio equipment, and every
variation of every armored vehicle in the German military during World War II.
The name notwithstanding, it also include information about the halftracks and
armored cars. Each vehicle (and each variant) is documented with slieus of B&W
photos ... most vehicles also have some interior shots as well. I just checked
now, and its available online at both Barnes and Noble and Amazon. Actually,
if you buy it through Amazon right now you get "German Tanks at War" for 35%
off; I've never seen this book, though its name promises good things. The
encyclopedia, for what it's worth, has a 5-star rating from readers.
A quick search showed the following, which may be useful:
Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two
by Peter Chamberlain and Hilary Doyle
German Light Panzers: 1932-1942
by Bryan Perret
Panzer 38(t)
by Horst Scheibert and Don Cox (translator)
and from Squadron Signal:
PzKpfw 38(t) in Action
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SS2019
(Squadron Signal produces some of the best information on German WWII, IMHO ...
each book is packed with drawings, closeups of various features, and scads of
B&W photos ... I used them on the Stuka, Panzer III, P38, SdKfz251, SdKfz250,
etc. etc ... and for $9.00, it's hard to beat)
>
> :D How's das Schnellboot?
It's going well ... I've actually decided to model it in MLCad first, primarily
due to my tapped resources of Grey - the intent is then to order all of the
needed pieces at once, when it's pretty close to finished. It sounds
intimidating, but it's going pretty well, actually. I've got much of the
forward deck done, but lately I've been concentrating on the hull and keel.
Harald Fock's Fast Fighting Boats, as per your suggestion, was tremendously
valuable. I've actually been taking the hull line drawings, and making the
specific rib sections to scale. I'm hoping to recreate the actual framework,
and then apply the studs-out hull plating to conform to the rib contours. It's
slow going (there are 20 defined rib sections total, and then a couple (10 or
so?) long contours that are defined from bow to stern), but progress is being
made. I figure that using a combination of slopes and your studs-out (which
I'm actually tiling) method, I'll be able to approximate the hull curves as
closely as possible. Luckily, they're not *too* complicated ... I'm planning
on being able to spend a good amount of time working on the hull tonight as
well.
Once the hull is done, I can try and fit all of the rooms/equipment/storage
areas into the available space. It's gonna be a tight fit - I've already made
two scale versions of the 3 20-cylinder engines, and they still seem a bit too
wide - grrrrrrrrrr.
Building on MLCad is definitely a different experience - I'm accustomed to
build IRL first, and then simply modeling. It's definitely cheaper for now,
which is it's primary advantage :P plus I have access to most of the parts in
unlimited quantities. It definintely is interesting, though, and I'm enjoying
it thus far. When I do need to get my hands-on tactile fix, though, I've got
some other projects in progress: A Shwimmwagen, an American M8 Greyhound, the
BF109, and a BR18 Steam Engine.
Here's one conondrum I've run up against with the S-boat, though ... any
thoughts on where I can find out the breakdown of personnel? I know that there
was a crew of about 30 or so. On US PT boats, all personnel were typically
adept at every task on board, but they only had a crew of about 17. What might
the crew breakdown be for a German crew of 30? How many officers, and of what
ranks? Individual roles (cook, mechanic, etc) or universal capabilities?
Fock's book didn't really address this, unfortunately - his emphasis was on
construction, design, and evolution.
TIA,
shaun
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