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Re: The Mantis - To take apart or not take apart?
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Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:17:59 GMT
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Joel thanks for your input, I appreciate it comming from a great builder
like you, although your advice seems a little abrasive.
You rasie good points, and I know what you mean, it's sort of like I'm
asking if it's "okay" to take it apart, I know.
Really there are plenty of reasons to keep the Mantis together, it would
just require me to muster up the might to fix it and renew the damaged systems.
On the other hand to tell you the truth, it could be fun to see how I built
the insides again. I just got so attached to it. Ahhh I'll spare you the
melodramma.
====more below.
In lugnet.build, Joel Kuester writes:
> In lugnet.build, Eric Sophie writes:
> > I've been thinking about taking it apart. • *snip*
> > I would make something better from all the good stuff locked up inside and out. • *snip*
> > Thoughts?
> > This ones tough.
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> Hi,
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> How is this a tough decision? You have clearly put a lot of thought into
> taking it apart. You have bleached it for parts, and it doesn't work
> anymore. You sound very unhappy with it as it is now.
====It is tough, mostly because I'm not used to dismanting something I
worked so hard on. Plus, oh I dunno I'm being wishy-washy. :)
> Sounds like you already made up your mind, which begs the question of the
> real reason behind your post. I won't address that, but I will address the
> question in a larger form because this was something I thought long and hard
> about before choosing Lego Bricks to model the worlds in my mind.
====Come on, I don't have alot of freinds that understand this stuff, I'm
turning to those folks here that can understand the effort and sacrifice.
Hey I was wondering do you still have the Benevolent Grace? Did you take it
apart? Did you have the same feelings? Or, um, maybe you were comfortable
with taking it apart? Just curious. Like I said I know what you mean, it's
sort of like I'm asking if it's "okay" to take it apart, I know.
> Impermanence. That is the whole reason for working in Lego bricks as a
> medium, isn't it? If you wanted to build truely permanent "works of art"
> you would work in a more permanent form, say styrene or wood, or somesuch.
> If it hasn't occured why you chose Lego, you should put some serious thought
> into that right now. Was it the novelty of being the 'Lego Master' to your
> friends. Was it desperation of not having the proper materials or knowledge
> to model these forms in another material? Was it a deeper connection to
> Lego as a means to invoke feelings of childhood's awe and playfullness?
====Dude, I made the decision to build Lego serious when I was 18, I'll be
32 this summer. I just thought that it was a way for me to create anything I
wanted. All the shapes and pcs. were there to use and made for me already.
Trust me I don't have 2nd thoughts or anysuch second guessing. I just sorta
want to know if others faced the same issues when decideing to wreck
something they worked so hard on for so long.
> All art has hidden meanings within the form chosen, and the artist should be
> well aware of that. What you choose to create with is almost as important
> as what you create. As someone who is making yourself out to be an artist,
> you need to explore these types of issues. Art with a capital 'a' is about
> making someone see the world in a new way through your perceptions. Its is
> about making statements; even if they are subtle, and some people don't
> understand, if you say something... that is what matters.
====Aww man I like the way you said that, so true, you are indeed wise.
> I believe the medium of Lego Bricks should be thought of as almost a
> performance art, rather than a sculptural one. Yes, of course there is the
> physical shape, but the fleeting grace of the whole concept is that they are
> only temporary, like a life unto itself. You pour yourself into the work,
> you share the work briefly, then like everything of beauty in this world, it
> gets destroyed.
====Hey that's pretty interesting, hmmm, preformance art. Joel, I'd love to
sit and talk about this stuff with you. I recently sought out a bunch of my
Artist friends, I asked them all about the fine line between Genius and
Insanity. How many Great Artists throughout history have drove themselves
insane though their Art, or lifestyle in creating their Art.
Also, I asked many of them about how they deal with the obsessiveness that
sometimes takes over the Artist/Creator and the demand to continue or
complete a given work. I think I'm just comming to terms with taking apart
something that I poured my soul into.
> But here's the 'artful' part... you take the remnants and rebuild. Like the
> anchient phoenix, those component bits become reborn as a (hopefully) newer,
> better creation.
==Yes, Yes, Yes!
> I personally feel that the fleeting existance of our creations is what gives
> them an extra bit of fragility and 'special-ness' that makes modeling in
> Lego different from modeling in something meant to be longer lasting.
====Very well said. I really agree whole heartedly.
> and last but not least, it will always be a toy at heart, and if you aren't
> having fun with something you built... its time to rebuild, isn't it?
>
> sincerely,
> Joel Kuester
> Milwaukee Institute of Art & Design
> Lugnet #558, NILTC
====Thanks Joel, I just needed another perspective.
Sincerly,
Eric Sophie
aka Legomaster (in this neck of the woods :)
www.mylegomaster.com
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| (...) hiya, Sorry if I come across as abrasive... I didn't really didn't intend it to be. I was just responding spontaneously and with complete honesty. I guess that stems from my experience during art critiques over the years. I really don't (...) (23 years ago, 10-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| (...) *snip* (...) *snip* (...) Hi, How is this a tough decision? You have clearly put a lot of thought into taking it apart. You have bleached it for parts, and it doesn't work anymore. You sound very unhappy with it as it is now. Sounds like you (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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