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Hi folks,
working on and off for almost a year with Scott Wardlaw, Alex Taylor and with
the help from Joshua Delahunty we put together a new LDConfig file which
hopefully fills in where the old version failed:
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/?n=15477&t=i&v=a
The file has the following characteristics:
* 100% backwards compatible with the old LDConfig.ldr file
http://www.ldraw.org/library/official/ldconfig.ldr
* Uses LEGO RGB values
* Uses LEGO numbering where possible
* Lists the matched LEGO name
* Uses Bricklink names
* Contains all colors currently listed at Bricklink
* Colors are listed in alphabetical order
* New color definitions for "Glitter" and "Speckle" as defined by the LSC
The following sources have been used to create the file:
New RGB Shadow color values provided by the LEGO Group
http://www.ldraw.org/Article93.html
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?v=0&itemType=P&itemNo=
http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~dulcaoin/LEGO/LEGO-Color-Chart.pdf
http://www.isodomos.com/ColorTree
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
A beta version of the file can be found at:
http://www.holly-wood.it/tmp/LDConfig.ldr
while a Wiki version showing also the colors is stored at:
http://www.ldraw.org/wiki/index.php/LDConfig.ldr
Before going public we have asked some programmers for feedback. Most concerns
were rose about the transparent color values. Be sure we used the Shadow colors
provided by the LEGO Group. Shadow colors are not the RGB values used for the
molds but are representations of those colors used in the company's system.
Question is:
Shall we restore the historical LDraw colors for the range from 0 to 50 since
the new colors look unnatural and washed out? This has to discussed before we
officially ship the new file with the 02-2009 parts update.
Another issue is consistency. While some programs of the LDraw System of Tools
already support the LDConfig.ldr file and use it instead of an inbuild color
system some don't. In order to keep the colors consistent throughout the LDraw
System of Tools it would be desirable to have all programs switch to the
LDConfig file.
In no way we are going to allowed that progs set a new color as it has happened
in the past:
http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/30367ps1.dat
We also encourage a switch from the current sorting on numbers to an
alphabetical order of the colors (perfect would be to leave the choice to the
user). You'll also find a list with the original TGL numbers moved to a 3xxxx
range. In no way have the TGL numbers to be mixed with LDraw colors. Also the
comments where we matched the TLG numbers to LDraw colors should be hidden from
the final user.
Comments and feedback are welcome.
w.
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| (...) SNIP (...) So it'd be goodbye for Stone Gray? :-( Well, I can live with that.. (...) Nice! :-) SNIP (...) Hmm... looking at the new colours I'd be otherwise fine sans the new Black... looks too bluish for me. (...) Well that's going to be (...) (15 years ago, 28-Jul-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but I think there might be a big difference between the representation of RGB values in a dye based color system for bricks, another one for printing on paper, and a color system for computer (...) (15 years ago, 28-Jul-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) <snip a lot of info> Seems like quite an undertaking. (...) My vote would go to keeping the old ldraw colors, like said else were most monitors aren't calibrated. (...) I don't know about other software but my LD4DStudio uses the config file (...) (15 years ago, 28-Jul-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| Has any thought been given to anyone on how patterned parts/stickered parts are to be handled? Because there are more colors used in printed and stickered parts then there will ever be in the plastic colors that this defines. I'm not trilled with (...) (15 years ago, 30-Jul-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
| | | Re: New LDConfig.ldr color file
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| (...) In order to add new colors to the list easily and with some officiality, it makes good sense to follow a system like using the colors provided from the Lego company. This is what I agreed to when creating this list of colors; as I knew that I (...) (15 years ago, 3-Aug-09, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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