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The quote above is from one of my NLF:s, after he saw my newly purchased 1182.
The thing he found so fun, was the fact that the building instructions
show the scorpion attached to the end of a chain, which in turn is
attached to the raft.
I had no idea why, but according to my NLF, Johnny Thunder is stupid
enough to think that the scorpion can tow his raft.
It's a very bad choice, though, considering the fact that scorpions
aren't water animals!
He also gave me an alternative use for the chain piece: To make a
"morning star" style weapon, and use it on a MindStorms robot.
(He's into destroying LEGO. He's the one who used his classic space
minifigs as shooting targets... Ouch...)
--Tobias
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In lugnet.adventurers, Tobias Möller writes:
> The quote above is from one of my NLF:s, after he saw my newly purchased 1182.
>
> The thing he found so fun, was the fact that the building instructions
> show the scorpion attached to the end of a chain, which in turn is
> attached to the raft.
> I had no idea why, but according to my NLF, Johnny Thunder is stupid
> enough to think that the scorpion can tow his raft.
> It's a very bad choice, though, considering the fact that scorpions
> aren't water animals!
>
> He also gave me an alternative use for the chain piece: To make a
> "morning star" style weapon, and use it on a MindStorms robot.
> (He's into destroying LEGO. He's the one who used his classic space
> minifigs as shooting targets... Ouch...)
>
> --Tobias
Where did you buy that set? I've never seen it before. You should take his
comment as an inspiration to design a scorpion-towed vehicle. The scorpion is
very much neglected by animal-towed vehicle builders. But how many would you
need?
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I bought it, along with nine other small sets, on Crete (I was there,
and I had some cash left over, and figured the best way to get rid of
them was to spend them on LEGO ^-^).
If you're curious, this is what I found:
1184
1185
1182
1186
3055 (in a packet of Kelloggs Corn Flakes)
1183
5900
5901
5905
5906
Hmm... A scorpion-towed vehicle? Maybe...
I think you would need at least ten scorpions, and I only have three
(but one is a trans-antifreeze orange one, I bet he's got super powers!).
If it was a hovering vehicle, I think it would be easier for the
scorpions to tow it.
--Tobias
Bradley Dale wrote:
>
> Where did you buy that set? I've never seen it before. You should take his
> comment as an inspiration to design a scorpion-towed vehicle. The scorpion is
> very much neglected by animal-towed vehicle builders. But how many would you
> need?
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In lugnet.adventurers, Tobias Möller writes:
>
> Hmm... A scorpion-towed vehicle? Maybe...
>
> I think you would need at least ten scorpions, and I only have three
> (but one is a trans-antifreeze orange one, I bet he's got super powers!).
>
> If it was a hovering vehicle, I think it would be easier for the
> scorpions to tow it.
>
> --Tobias
You should take his
> > comment as an inspiration to design a scorpion-towed vehicle. The scorpion • is
> > very much neglected by animal-towed vehicle builders. But how many would • you
> > need?
Of course, we're ignoring the fact that Lego Scorpions are at least a few feet
long. (Comparing to Minifigs) So ten should easily pull a chariot-type
vehicle. Of couse, the hover-chariot would be cool as well.
Sean
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In lugnet.adventurers, Sean Forbes writes:
> In lugnet.adventurers, Tobias Möller writes:
> >
> > Hmm... A scorpion-towed vehicle? Maybe...
> >
> > I think you would need at least ten scorpions, and I only have three
> > (but one is a trans-antifreeze orange one, I bet he's got super powers!).
He's sort of like "Rudolph, the Trans-neon-orange Scorpion."
I think you should consider the marketing potential of this,
seeing as how Christmas is coming up and all. At the very
least, perhaps someone can make a short stop-motion feature.
We do after all have a Lego Santa and sleigh set in existence.
> > If it was a hovering vehicle, I think it would be easier for the
> > scorpions to tow it.
I'm not sure the issue is net force needed to move the object,
rather it's the ability both to train the scorpions to move in
unison *and* to move in the *same direction* (see below).
> You should take his
> > > comment as an inspiration to design a scorpion-towed vehicle. The scorpion • is
> > > very much neglected by animal-towed vehicle builders. But how many would • you
> > > need?
>
> Of course, we're ignoring the fact that Lego Scorpions are at least a few feet
> long. (Comparing to Minifigs) So ten should easily pull a chariot-type
> vehicle. Of couse, the hover-chariot would be cool as well.
One would hope that owning a hover-chariot would obviate the
necessity of employing arthropodic power of any sort (I'm
broadening it to include the inevitable spider facet of the
discussion).
After much thought, the following seem reasonable [1]:
-Chains would be very counterproductive (heavy) methods of towing,
even given that the scorpions are about 1m long. (Whoa, did
anyone else just have a flashback to "Clash of the Titans?")
They're just way heavy. Perhaps grappling hooks from Res-Q
or rigging bits from Pirates could be employed? You would
have to find some way of keeping them apart, however, or
your assembled scorpion sled team (probably not Iditarod-
compliant, sorry) could degenerate into a flurry of snapping
claws and slinging stingers. Flex straws?
-To get them all to go in the proper direction, it might be
necessary to design a contrivance around a flex tube that
would suspend, say, a kitten or a monkey torso (I know you
.castle and .pirates people have plenty of these, seeing
as how you lust after those brown arm bits) in front of
said assembled scorpions a la racing dogs. You could even cover
it so that they don't move contra design, and utter something
fitting when exposing the "carrot" ("Here I am, rock you like
a hurricane!"[2]) and starting the mighty scorpion barge o' doom
on its way. This would also render moot the propensity for
the scorpions to move under their own impetus.
-The quantitative question: This is a good one. As a cursory
Web search has elicited exactly zero articles or sites devoted
to scorpion power (all the more amazing given the interest in
Alternative Energy these days), more research must be done.
As the Simpsons are on at 8 p.m., I do not have time to write
an NSF grant to cover the necessary costs (anti-venom, heavy
gloves, thick-soled boots, and naïve/expendable graduate students)
for said research. Trying to follow a strict equivalency argument
about "who would win a fight" is also fruitless, because even
the dumbest horse will not enter into such a contest against
three or four hundred scorpions. Finally, I have never seen
a three-foot scorpion (save "Clash of the Titans", above), nor
do I wish to, so we must remain completely within the realm of
theory here.
However, if we assume that 1m scorpions can (conservatively)
carry 5 times their bodily mass--scaled down exponentially
from the actual force needed to stop a normal-sized scorpion--
then it simply becomes a matter of massing Lego scorpions
in comparison to the vehicle and apparatus being towed. As
any good theorist must, I shall point out that vehicle per-
formance will still be limited to the top speed of a *single*
scorpion under load, and may be very much less than that, given
that Scorpions will stop to snap at each other, die in transit,
and/or stop to smell the Wind of Change. Therefore we can
expect that top speed would be likely 200 to 300 meters per
hour.
By the way, has anyone worked out the logistics for scorpion
husbandry? I mean, *someone* out there in the wide world has
to be breeding these things. Maybe they could work on a
beast-of-burden breed! ("Look at the spots, that's a Holstein
scorpion.")
nb.: The entire pointless ramble above presumes black scorpions.
If you use the trans-orange super-powered variety, all bets
are off.fnord
Scientifically yours,
Lindsay.nl
[1] Inasmuch as any of this is reasonable. I need a drink.
[2] http://www.the-scorpions.com/scripts_us/index_us.html
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In lugnet.adventurers, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.adventurers, Sean Forbes writes:
> > In lugnet.adventurers, Tobias Möller writes:
> > >
> > > Hmm... A scorpion-towed vehicle? Maybe...
> > >
> > > I think you would need at least ten scorpions, and I only have three
> > > (but one is a trans-antifreeze orange one, I bet he's got super powers!).
>
> He's sort of like "Rudolph, the Trans-neon-orange Scorpion."
> I think you should consider the marketing potential of this,
> seeing as how Christmas is coming up and all. At the very
> least, perhaps someone can make a short stop-motion feature.
> We do after all have a Lego Santa and sleigh set in existence.
Or, perhaps the red-orange thing is a lobster and not a scorpion at all? That
would make the most sense.
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In lugnet.adventurers, Bradley Dale writes:
> In lugnet.adventurers, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > In lugnet.adventurers, Sean Forbes writes:
> > > In lugnet.adventurers, Tobias Möller writes:
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... A scorpion-towed vehicle? Maybe...
> > > >
> > > > I think you would need at least ten scorpions, and I only have three
> > > > (but one is a trans-antifreeze orange one, I bet he's got super powers!).
> >
> > He's sort of like "Rudolph, the Trans-neon-orange Scorpion."
> > I think you should consider the marketing potential of this,
> > seeing as how Christmas is coming up and all. At the very
> > least, perhaps someone can make a short stop-motion feature.
> > We do after all have a Lego Santa and sleigh set in existence.
>
> Or, perhaps the red-orange thing is a lobster and not a scorpion at all? That
> would make the most sense.
A lobster? Ye Gods, man, I think you're on to something!
Now I have to completely alter the power ratios! (And figure
out why they've got erectile tails.)
Hmmm...that may explain the trans-orange ones, but then why
is the riverine example towing the raft on the small Adventurers
set black? Unfortunately the only black river I know of is
the Cuyahoga (when it's not on fire), and that's nowhere near
Ancient Egypt.
best
LFB
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Aren't lobsters black *before* you boil[1] them? That would explain a
lot... Johnny Thunder has a lobster towing his raft! The only problem
is... Lobsters do not live in fresh water.
Maybe it is a really big freshwater shrimp?
Mr L F Braun wrote:
> In lugnet.adventurers, Bradley Dale writes:
> > Or, perhaps the red-orange thing is a lobster and not a scorpion at all? That
> > would make the most sense.
>
> A lobster? Ye Gods, man, I think you're on to something!
> Now I have to completely alter the power ratios! (And figure
> out why they've got erectile tails.)
>
> Hmmm...that may explain the trans-orange ones, but then why
> is the riverine example towing the raft on the small Adventurers
> set black? Unfortunately the only black river I know of is
> the Cuyahoga (when it's not on fire), and that's nowhere near
> Ancient Egypt.
[1] We can have gourmet restaurants now, with lobster aquariums! And,
when lobsters are boiled, they turn red! IIRC, there are red scorpions
as well. There we have it, boiled and not boiled lobsters. Maybe I
should make a lobster shop in my town?
--Tobias
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