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Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:23:24 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Joslin writes:
> In lugnet.admin.nntp, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > So? That effects one, maybe two people. The benefits to the community make
> > > for a much more convincing argument.
> >
> > Go ahead and make that argument. It hasn't been made.
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> Yes, it has. Over and over again. But, as I don't think you've demonstrated a
> terminal lack of ability to grasp a point yet either (although you are getting
> close)...
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> http://news.lugnet.com/lego/direct/?n=2201
The referenced post does not "argue" the benefits to the community achieved
by restricting Lego employees posting using their company email address to
the .lego.* groups. It assumes it. It accepts it as factual without any
argument whatsoever.
Todd writes:
"LUGNET discussion groups were founded for fans to talk to other fans. The
LEGO Company isn't a fan -- it is a business, and its purpose in life is to
sell products and make money. It doesn't talk like fans, it doesn't think
like fans, and it isn't _part of_ the community it spawned, no matter how
seductive it may be to believe that."
This statement is not an argument. It assumes everyone agrees that
employees of the Lego Company are not and cannot be considered "fans" if
they post using their lego.com email address. The fact that Lego employees
may have additional motives (above and beyond their "fan" motive) for
posting messages is immaterial.
Posts made by Lego employees using their lego.com email address should never
be taken as anything more than an unofficial fan post unless they post in a
.lego.* group. That would be consistent with normal newsgroup standards
where posting with a company-provided email address has *never* suggested
that the poster was making an official company statement.
Just as Todd probably can and does post unofficially anywhere with any email
address and officially in .admin.* (regardless of the email address he uses)
so should Lego employees be allowed to post.
> To sum up, LEGO involving itself in fan discussions in an official capacity
> weakens the core reason Lugnet exists- for fans to talk to other fans.
Lego is a company. The people who post with lego.com email addresses are
employees. There is a difference between an employee and a company.
Chances are Jake is not "sent" to post on Lugnet. Tomas almost certainly
wasn't directed by Brad Justus (or anyone else) to "clean up the bionicle
mask mess on Lugnet". They are (I believe) people who want to participate
in a fan discussion and provide what they believe is useful input to that
discussion.
Since when does an email address change whether you officially represent a
company or not? If Tomas posted via his home email he would say exactly the
same things he said via his lego.com email address. It would be the same
person typing the same words. And we require him to switch addresses
because we only want "fans to talk to other fans"? He becomes a fan when he
is willing to post via his home email address? That makes no sense
whatsoever to me.
John Hansen
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