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Re: The Relationship - LEGO and its Fans (was: Re: Official vs. unofficial LEGO postings)
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:56:43 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Joslin writes:
> > In lugnet.admin.nntp, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> > Anyway, without getting all needlessly philosophical, you wouldn't mind
> > pointing out where those examples are, would you? I can't think of any
> > example
> > that's been given that really illustrates how this move hurts anything.
>
> The Bionicle thread is a perfectly good example. That theme group was in
> sore need of some official answers, in that group. One of the key askers of
> questions has already posted to this thread in support of the ability to get
> answers put where they belong, in the group where they were asked.
Why was the group in need of official answers *in that group*? If the people
in the group were really seeking official answers, no doubt they would have
been posting in lugnet.lego.direct- after all, I've seen plenty of posts asking
quesitons about Bionicle mask collecting issues posted there. And not
answered. Which means I probably answered my own question about why the posts
were in lugnet.technic.bionicle- people had given up on the idea of LD actually
answering the questions.
It's not my intention to start down the road of quesitoning LD's effectiveness,
but I do think it would be easier for everyone if Lugnet users could rely on
lugnet.lego.direct as a single forum in which questions could be asked, and LD
could respond. This move- and the proposed posting restrictions for
lugnet.lego.direct- bring us closer to that, which will make the group easier
to use.
> > > Switching identities is a PITA. Try it.
> >
> > So? That effects one, maybe two people. The benefits to the community make
> > for a much more convincing argument.
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> Go ahead and make that argument. It hasn't been made.
Yes, it has. Over and over again. But, as I don't think you've demonstrated a
terminal lack of ability to grasp a point yet either (although you are getting
close)...
http://news.lugnet.com/lego/direct/?n=2201
To sum up, LEGO involving itself in fan discussions in an official capacity
weakens the core reason Lugnet exists- for fans to talk to other fans.
> > This doesn't hamper LD talking to fans in any
> > real way that anyone has yet identified.
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> Answering questions posed by fans in the appropriate group.
See above.
> > Yes, they cannot post their answers to theme groups. So what? They can
> > still
> > post them. They can still post them *in the thread*. Web users, and savvy
> > NNTP users, will be able to follow them to their heart's delight.
>
> Computers exist to make things easy. Using them to make things hard for no
> good reason is foolish. Those that support doing so for no good reason are
> fools.
Larry, this is the second or third time you've said that. Yes, computers- and
all tools- exist to perform a function for people (note that there is a subtle
difference in that statement and what you said, which indicates that I think
what you said was a little too generalized). But if one idiot caveman didn't
figure out how to use a bone as a lever, I don't think the other cavemen were
likely to blame it on the bone.
It's up to the user to learn how to use the tool, to a certain extent.
eric
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