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Re: Why these news groups were created
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:02:35 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.nntp, Eric Smith wrote:
  
  
Some have suggested that sexual orientation has no business being openly discussed on LUGNET. This opinion is quite respectable, but it does not recognize that sexual orientation is as much an identifying aspect of life for some people as, say, religion or occupation or hobbies are for others.

Some have suggested that certain religious beliefs are being actively ignored, and that allowing the creation of an LGBT group, which openly embraces a lifestyle that is counter to those beliefs, is disrespectful to those beliefs. The fact is that while LUGNET respects all religious beliefs, it is also religion-neutral. Thus, religous beliefs play no role here in determining whether or not the creation of an LGBT group is warranted.


So if LUGNET is religion neutral, why can’t it be sexually neutral too? If you don’t see a need for a religious-oriented group, it follows that there’s no need for this type of group either.

The difference being that there was a request for the lgbt group.

   You talk about how people can simply not look at this stuff, but there is a problem. We tell parents at our shows about LUGNET. The first time they come visit the highlighted articles on the home page are talking about LGBT rubbish. I certainly wouldn’t want that to be the first thing people see when they visit. LUGNET has always been a safe place to discuss LEGO topics without the fear of running into something that many people would rather just avoid. I’m afraid that’s no longer possible with the addition of these severely off-topic groups.

They are only on the front page because ENOUGH LUGNET MEMBERS THOUGHT THEY WERE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HIGHLIGHT THEM!! It is not because the group is there. The whole discussion could have been kept off the front page had members just chosen not to highlight it.

ROSCO


LUGNET currently has 2,500+ members. I’ve seen many times where a post has gotten on the LUGNET front page with just a single person spotlighting it. One person spotlights a gay post, and everyone who comes to LUGNET for the first time could find it logical to conclude that all 2,500+ LUGNET members are interested in gay topics of discussion. I think Eric makes a very legitimate point.



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  Re: Why these news groups were created
 
(...) Yes, he does. I was simply pointing out that the posts don't get there by themselves. BTW I think only posts in .announce can get there with only 1 spotlight, anything else seems to require 3 or 4. I have, in fact, noted in the past that (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Why these news groups were created
 
(...) Something can make it to the front page with only one spotlight? Sure: as long as those other 2,499+ members aren't spotlighting something else. If you don't want to see something on the front page, then spotlight something else! Spotlight (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Why these news groups were created
 
Hello! (...) That's as logical as to conclude from one left-handed murderer that all lefties are murderers. And who would take the opinion seriously of somebody who comes to that conclusion? Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why these news groups were created
 
(...) The difference being that there was a request for the lgbt group. (...) They are only on the front page because ENOUGH LUGNET MEMBERS THOUGHT THEY WERE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HIGHLIGHT THEM!! It is not because the group is there. The whole (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)

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