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Re: 8 new subgroups of lugnet.people (Kids, Teens, Adults, Singles, Couples, Parents, Support, LGBT)
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Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:13:43 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Terry Prosper wrote:
> Todd, I think that a heterosexual newsgroup is needed to be fair. And if you
> were to create a newsgroup for women, a newsgroup for men should be required
> too.
I disagree-- it seems like heterosexual white males are by far the majority on
Lugnet. As one of them, I'm not looking for a small subgroup to call my own. I
expect you're not either. If I were a woman or gay or black? How easy would it
be to find fans that I could relate to? Probably would be much trickier. Hence,
it sounds like a seperate subgroup might be appreciated. If the desire or need
ever arose to have a male or hetero group (rather than to have one just for the
sake of having one), then I'd be all for it.
> I understand that your move was to prevent trouble,
I sure hope that's not why Todd did it. Responding to threats is rarely ever a
good reason to do things.
> but the way I see it, the idea of such a newsgroup here is irrelevant. It's
> out-of-topic and is potentialy as dangerous as if you had a religion-related
> newsgroup implemented.
Well, really the entire lugnet.people and off-topic subgroups of LUGNET should
be gone if that's the case. And if you're here purely to read about Lego, then
you can just add lugnet.people.* and lugnet.off-topic.* to your skip-filters.
But I'm not here JUST to talk about Lego. I'm here to be a part of a community
that shares an interest in Lego. And being part of a community means there's
topics that come up that don't relate to the hobby, but to the people involved.
> I've seen members bashing others for nationality reasons without any
> consequences, so how will gay-bashing be handled? Will it be tolerated as
> other insults I have read here? Will it be punished more severely? If so,
> how will the curators justify that one can't insult someone else on their
> sexual-orientation without consequences, but they can insult people without
> problem on other issues, like nationality, religion, color, etc?
I'd guess that just like everything else, it's allowed, although most likely
frowned upon. I don't think it'll be more punishable than any other insult.
> I'm sure the objective is to clear Lugnet of such personnal attacks,
I don't think that's true at all-- communities have problems. They've got
arguments and fights. And it's nice to avoid them, but in reality, they really
do come up. So having a forum that has breathing room for conflict is far better
than one that doesn't. I'd hate to read personal fights at all, but far better
if they appear in lugnet.off-topic or something similar rather than
lugnet.general.
DaveE
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| (...) Todd, I think that a heterosexual newsgroup is needed to be fair. And if you were to create a newsgroup for women, a newsgroup for men should be required too. And since Lugnet is aiming to be something other than LEGO-related with these (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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