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Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
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Date: 
Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:12:42 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ray Sanders writes:
When I enter a message thru the web interface, then click preview, the raw
text (in the edit window) comes back with hard line breaks at the end of
each line.  Why does this happen ?

Because the form says

   <TEXTAREA NAME="Body" COLS=79 ROWS=20 MAXLENGTH=65000 WRAP=HARD>

It's the WRAP=HARD part that asks for the hard line breaks.


In case it matters, I'm using MacOS 8.1, Netscape 4.5.

This also caused a URL I put in to line break. You can see this at...
<http://news.lugnet.com/market/theory/?n=1679>

Am I doing something wrong?

No, but I think your web browser is.  With other browsers, WRAP=HARD only
applies at word breaks (i.e. spaces), meaning that really big long words
more than 79-80 columns -- like URLs, for example -- shouldn't be broken
when you browser sends the text.  OTOH, maybe the browsers that work are the
ones that are broken.


One possible solution to the URL problem would be
if the edit area was wider (although I suspect that this could break people
on a screen smaller than 17").

Actually, screen size doesn't matter much, it's screen resolution (for
example 1024x768 or 640x480) that matters.  But along those general lines,
one possible solution would be to leave out the WRAP=HARD line.  Unfortunately,
then what happens is that you have to hit Enter (or Return) manaully and if
you don't, your text area scrolls.

What does Netscape 4.6 or 4.7 or MSIE 5.x on the Mac do?  I don't think it's
supposed to be breaking URLs onto two lines without your permission.  And it's
not something the server does.

--Todd



Message has 6 Replies:
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
(...) Todd, I have been experiencing the same or similar issues since the big Lugnet overhaul/server switch awhile ago. I seem to be able to post normally much of the time, but I am occasionally getting a "login" screen (read the tos, enter info, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
(...) Todd, I have been experiencing the same or similar issues since the big Lugnet overhaul/server switch awhile ago. I seem to be able to post normally much of the time, but I am occasionally getting a "login" screen (read the tos, enter info, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
Todd - How much of an inconvenience would it be for you to put in some basic form of link parsing for the part of the news server that accepts posts? Also, would it be too much to ask for some basic tag identifiers to help identify the start and end (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
(...) Let me try to explain this differently: in the browser window that I am looking at right now, the edit box for this lugnet message takes up about the left-most 2/3 of the window. The right 1/3 of the window (between the edit area scroll bar (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
(...) Dear Todd, A suggestion: How about a url or link box in each message? I am not a programmer and thus I don't know if my proposal is monumental, heresy, impractical, or unnecessary. My suggestion is merely an idea to address the "wrap" problems (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
(...) Doesn't the server do it because you have told it WRAP=HARD. I think I have always had this problem posting URLs from the Web interface even before you did your preview posting change. I post about 95% through the web interface. Here is a (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  line breaks in my messages, why does this happen ?
 
Todd, When I enter a message thru the web interface, then click preview, the raw text (in the edit window) comes back with hard line breaks at the end of each line. Why does this happen ? In case it matters, I'm using MacOS 8.1, Netscape 4.5. This (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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