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I got to thinking today about what I REALLY did wrong here. What did I do wrong? I attacked Jude's site in a somewhat mean way and didn't give any reasons as to why I thought so. And that's it. That's all I did wrong. Well I did also get caught up (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | The Friendliest Place On The Internet. (Was Re: What's going to happen.)
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Selçuk Göre wrote in message ... (...) the (...) Selçuk, Mike, and everyone, I'm sorry for any name-calling. I was angry and upset and I didn't realise how much it came out like a flame. I'm sure than we can forget this, and continue to "play well" (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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G'day folks, Yesterday, I think it was, I posted a message about how happy I was that I managed to stay out of the flame war. Now that discussions are a lot less heated, I think I'll add some thoughts. I've been thinking in point-form lately, so (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm.... thinking about exactly what's been going on around here, I think add my $.02 to the issue. - As to whether or not Matthew deserves to be permanently banned, as I've said before, no. As for temporary banishment, perhaps. I could (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Apology accepted, Mike. That's all I ever see is necessary. Cheers, Paul Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) (namecalling (...) on (...) he (...) caused (...) learned (...) it (...) the (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: Todd! Admin and owner
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) I think you got it the second time ;-) you need to do a little practice in "swenglish", or me in english. LOL It was a good answer, and I think you deliberately made it loooong to keep me busy for a while;-) (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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I know that some people do not think I am sincere in my apologies and they want to see me banned. I would however like to make a no tolerance proposal. Basically I think that I should be on a sort of probation period for say the next three months. (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: Todd! Admin and owner
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(...) My professional opinion is I'm concerned that the arguments of the past 36 hours have been more about Matthew and his continued presence or non-presence and less about the underlying issues he was trying to raise. Perhaps the collective mind (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, I'm pretty sure we are, since there are people that are still telling Todd they want to see him banned permanently. I don't think that's right, and apparently (based on other people's posts here) I'm not alone in thinking that. Based on (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: Todd! Admin and owner
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(...) I don't understand the question. --Todd (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Well said, Larry. Build On! John Matthews Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G2rA03.5Gt@lugnet.com... (...) site, (...) about (...) what (...) although (...) about (...) announcement (...) mostly (...) fundamental (...) (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Todd! Admin and owner
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*Well, maybe I do not have the knowledge to speak/write in the language oher than my own, but hey, I'm here to learn* Todd! I think that the service you provide us/me is more than I/we could ever have been asking for. I think that the service you (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) LEGO (...) do (...) he (...) Well, yes and no. :-) Todd's manifesto was so well written, so thoughtful, so detailed, and so ahead of its time that when *I* read it, I begged Todd to come to Cambridge Technology Partners (1) as a consultant for (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think we are not talking about "excluding him from Lugnet", he is already excluded in some way, and not for his web content. What we are talking about is whether his apologies are sincere or not. And his web content makes me believing the (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Sorry, but I don't. (...) He's simply stating some things he doesn't like about the Lego community as he sees it. What's the problem with that? Once again, what it comes down to is this: Over on *his* site, which you are under no obligation to (...) (26 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Eric Kingsley wrote: <snip> (...) I will be agreeing you on this for a different case but not this. We are not trying to rationalize to TOS him because of his web content. It's just his web content is another evidence for making his (in my mind) (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Lorbaat wrote: <snip> (...) I think you are stretching a bit Eric. Forget about the JJ icon and look at his "document" about "My views about the self entitled "Lego Community"." (URL) (note the name of the html!!) You respected a community and want (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: What's going to happen.
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(...) Sorry about making you such dissapointed and angry, but please consider that you are not the only one. Not mad at you of course, and not at any other people who accepted his apologies. You just tried to make your point and I don't have any (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well that definitely wasn't nice if thats how it happened. *But* how much damage do you think he could have done to us from his site? From a technical standpoint his site is nice but not something that is going to generate a ton of hits on its (...) (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) been (...) It was actually only one year ago. He remembered it wrong. (26 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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