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Subject: 
MSIE5 better but still buggy (was: Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer)
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Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:54:50 GMT
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Doing some testing with MSIE5 under Win98 under Virtual PC under MacOS9...
Replying to my message from last night...

In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> [...]
> One of the bugs, for example, is that MSIE puts extra whitespace _past_ the
> border of a hyperlink image with a nonzero border.  That is, it correctly
> draws the n-pixel border in <A HREF="..."><IMG BORDER=n ...></A> but then it
> also ridiculously adds _another_ n-pixels of border around that.  :-/

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!


> Another bug is the way the leading is handled between <UL></UL> and <P> in
> MSIE.  (I can't remember the exact details, but NN got it right.)

Not sure about this yet.


> Antother (this one extremely braindead) bug is that MSIE sometimes likes to
> break lines of the form "foo&foo;foo" at the entity boundary.  *WAY* wrong
> thing to do when the entity is &reg; or &copy; -- or worse when it's a
> European letter.

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!

But it looks like there's a new "oddity" ("it's a feature, not a bug!"):
MSIE5 likes to do word-breaks on ASCII hyphens.  This is fine for things
like "fan-created", but it's pretty dumb for things like "e-mail" and "5-
minute" and:

   Member Since: 19-
   Nov-1999

Oh well, it's nowhere near as bad as what happened before with
<SMALL><SUP>&reg;</SUP></SMALL>...


> Another totally braindead UI problem (maybe they've fixed this recently?)
> is that MSIE will stop loading a page if you click a link in it and the
> link's target is a different window -- i.e., something that happens very
> commonly on framed pages.

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!


> Yet another totally braindead MSIE problem is multiple-select lists with the
> <SELECT> tag.  If none of the <OPTION> items within a <SELECT> have the
> SELECTED attribute, MSIE is its infinite wisdom decides to auto-select the
> first item for you!  Wonderful.  So you have to add an empty foofoo item at
> the top if you're serving pages to an MSIE browser, if you don't want
> anything selected by default.  (Perhaps MS has fixed this bug by now.)

Still broken in MSIE5!  Bummer.

--Todd



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  Re: MSIE5 better but still buggy (was: Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer)
 
(...) Why do you consider this difference in behavior between the two browsers to be "broken" in IE5? Obviously, I can make the reverse argument and say it is "broken" in Nav. Neither browser is going to change this behaviour, it will break (...) (27 years ago, 20-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer
 
(...) I called it "bug" because IMHO it is a User Interface bug. But yeah, more objectively, it is simply an "inability." Okie dokie, here ya go, here's a page with two forms... Type text in the boxes and hit Enter. If nothing happens when you hit (...) (27 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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