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Subject: 
MSIE5 better but still buggy (was: Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer)
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Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:54:50 GMT
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Doing some testing with MSIE5 under Win98 under Virtual PC under MacOS9...
Replying to my message from last night...

In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
[...]
One of the bugs, for example, is that MSIE puts extra whitespace _past_ the
border of a hyperlink image with a nonzero border.  That is, it correctly
draws the n-pixel border in <A HREF="..."><IMG BORDER=n ...></A> but then it
also ridiculously adds _another_ n-pixels of border around that.  :-/

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!


Another bug is the way the leading is handled between <UL></UL> and <P> in
MSIE.  (I can't remember the exact details, but NN got it right.)

Not sure about this yet.


Antother (this one extremely braindead) bug is that MSIE sometimes likes to
break lines of the form "foo&foo;foo" at the entity boundary.  *WAY* wrong
thing to do when the entity is &reg; or &copy; -- or worse when it's a
European letter.

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!

But it looks like there's a new "oddity" ("it's a feature, not a bug!"):
MSIE5 likes to do word-breaks on ASCII hyphens.  This is fine for things
like "fan-created", but it's pretty dumb for things like "e-mail" and "5-
minute" and:

   Member Since: 19-
   Nov-1999

Oh well, it's nowhere near as bad as what happened before with
<SMALL><SUP>&reg;</SUP></SMALL>...


Another totally braindead UI problem (maybe they've fixed this recently?)
is that MSIE will stop loading a page if you click a link in it and the
link's target is a different window -- i.e., something that happens very
commonly on framed pages.

Fixed in MSIE5.  Yay!


Yet another totally braindead MSIE problem is multiple-select lists with the
<SELECT> tag.  If none of the <OPTION> items within a <SELECT> have the
SELECTED attribute, MSIE is its infinite wisdom decides to auto-select the
first item for you!  Wonderful.  So you have to add an empty foofoo item at
the top if you're serving pages to an MSIE browser, if you don't want
anything selected by default.  (Perhaps MS has fixed this bug by now.)

Still broken in MSIE5!  Bummer.

--Todd



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: MSIE5 better but still buggy (was: Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer)
 
(...) Why do you consider this difference in behavior between the two browsers to be "broken" in IE5? Obviously, I can make the reverse argument and say it is "broken" in Nav. Neither browser is going to change this behaviour, it will break (...) (25 years ago, 20-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer
 
(...) I called it "bug" because IMHO it is a User Interface bug. But yeah, more objectively, it is simply an "inability." Okie dokie, here ya go, here's a page with two forms... Type text in the boxes and hit Enter. If nothing happens when you hit (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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