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In lugnet.admin.general, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney writes:
> > Cancelling posts as of now is a bit cumbersome, having to ask Todd to
> > do it for you and all. What if the members' area had a utility to
> > cancel any of the posts that came from that specific member number - a
> > user can browse through his/her posts to LUGNET and pick one, read it
> > over to make sure, and cancel it through their login.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> I agree.
The way I read Todd's position on cancelling posts is:
He does not like to do it.
Upon request from the originator, he does cancel messages, but only when the
author gives express orders to do so. Anything other than this leads to
moderating the newsgroups and/or censorship. Two things that I know Todd has
expressed repeatedly that he does not want to undertake.
Asking Todd to cancel your posts is only one method of cancelling a post,
however. There is another method that is really not very complicated.
(All) newsreader software clients have the ability to cancel posts that you
have written. Such programs include the popularly used Netscape Navigator
News, Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora(??), Microplanet Gravity, Forte Agent
and Free Agent, slrn, trn, tin, etc. Newsreaders require the user to provide
personal information in the program set-up to allow you to post messages; this
information is also used to identify you when you select one of your own
messages for cancellation. These rules apply to all news servers like Lugnet
and Usenet.
Even if the message to be deleted has been posted using the HTTP web interface
at Lugnet, any newsreader on your computer can cancel such a post. Simply
locate the target message in the newsgroup as if you were to read it. Select
the post and then find the menu option to cancel it. Not very difficult at
all. And very easy for Todd since he is now hands-free of the whole situation.
Note that for Lugnet news articles (especially), once replies to your message
are posted, cancelling your message can do bad things for threading of the
messages. I do not know all of the specifics here, but when others find the
thread using newsreaders thru NNTP, they may wonder where the missing message
has gone to and will not be able to find out and may even have difficulty
figuring out the threading of subsequent messages now that your message is
gone.
On the Lugnet web interface, a placeholder exists where your message once
stood. All text is expunged from view (still remains on Lugnet server
somewhere) but if any subsequent posts quoted any or all of your message, that
text will remain. There is no solution to this dilemna.
Careful thought and wording can eliminate the need for cancelling posts on a
large or frequent basis. I always read my posts at least once before hitting
the send or post message button and sometimes after composing my message I even
decide to not post them at all. This is all up to personal discretion.
If you are unfamiliar with using newsreaders, check out the Lugnet FAQ for
tips. A few messages exist there that will be extremely helpful in beginning
to use newsreaders. Newsreaders are powerful communication tools, many with
capabilites exceeding email clients. I recommend you check some of them out.
As for posting to Lugnet, I personally prefer using a newsreader since the
ones I use have spell-check capabilities where the lugnet HHTP web interface
does not. I can also very easily keep track of which lugnet messages I have
read so that I do not waste time reading the same posts over and over again.
One drawback is the lack of ability to follow threads across different (lugnet0
newsgroups. Most have the ability to mark messages across newsgroups, however,
for messages that are cross-posted, if this option is selected.
Some people have trouble with newsreaders at schools, colleges, work computers,
etc. due to firewalls and de-activated news server capabilites. Todd has at
least four different news ports available (119, 8000, 8080 that I can remember)
that should be able to overcome the barriers in most network systems.
Give newsreaders a try. I bet you will like them.... And then you can cancel
your own posts the next time the need arises...
Kevin Salm
....No bigger fan of the Gray Lego brick has ever existed....
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| I don't believe you can cancel posts with your newsreader that you posted with the web interface. If you can, that would solve the problem for a class of users, but not all. However, I still think this is a facility that Todd should provide. It is (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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