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Subject: 
Collapsing the lugnet.loc.uk hierarchy
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Date: 
Sat, 17 Jul 1999 04:05:52 GMT
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Now that the web new interface is in place, now is an excellent time to
revisit the shrinking of the lugnet.loc.uk hierarchy to a more appropriate
size.  This is continuing an earlier thread from about 4 weeks ago.

Basically, participants in the UK newsgroups agree that there are too
many newsgroups (83) for the number of people (about 25-50) currently
participating from the UK, and that a much smaller number of groups would
be easier to manage.

We talked about wiping away all of the individual-city newsgroups and
retaining only 7 of the original UK groups:  .loc.uk (UK), .loc.uk.ci
(Channel Islands), .loc.uk.en (England), .loc.uk.im (Isle of Man),
.loc.uk.ni (Northern Ireland), .loc.uk.sc (Scotland), and .loc.uk.wl
(Wales).

I think this is a good idea, and it can be done while preserving the
original underlying structure for other purposes -- such as organizing
links more locally (as appropriate) and, with memberships later, allowing
people to associate themselves with a particular sub-area and creating
topic pages for particular sub-areas.

So this is official notice that the lugnet.loc.uk newsgroup hierarchy will
be collapsing soon.  76 newsgroups will go away, but the categories on the
web site will still be there (they just won't have newsgroups associated
with them anymore).  These subcategories on the website will then exist
benignly and remain useless for the time being (unless anyone has some
specific links they'd like added to a particular sub-area).

This is still (a tiny bit) open for discussion -- but not so much on the
details as simply whether or not it is still OK with everyone (since it
is a rather drastic step and it means that a small number of existing
articles will be wiped).

If it goes well with the .loc.uk collapsing, BTW, it probably would be a
good idea to collapse a few other loc hierarchies, most notably .fr, .it,
.es, .nz, .at, .ch, .be, .br, and perhaps also .se, .no, .dk, .de, and .ie.

Seems a shame to un-do all of those groups, but at least it can be done in
such a way that their empty shells remain on the website and can be re-
activated someday as needed/as appropriate.

--Todd



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: lugnet.loc.uk Restructuring Proposal
 
(...) Simon & Richard, this looks really nice. Thanks for all the effort you put in and research time you devoted. I have a bunch of questions and a counter-proposal. (...) The 9 groups listed below are areas of specifically England, right? Could (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.admin.general)

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