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Re: Updatezilla
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lugnet.admin.database
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Sun, 29 Nov 1998 05:34:52 GMT
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What I tell people when they ask is that I can't give or revoke
permission
to use the images on my site because I don't own them in the first
place.
I agree it's a nettequette issue rather than a legal one.
KL
Todd Lehman wrote:
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> "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> writes:
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> > By the way, I investigated a little bit the pictures in my hand which were not
> > scanned by me, and found that they were mostly extracted/cropped from the
> > catalog/idea book and other sacnned materials from the web sites of:
> >
> > Kevin Loch (Instruction Scan Site)
> > Tore Ericsson (Old Lego Scans)
> > Huw Millington (Promotional Set Database, 1970's Lego and Catalog Scans)
> > Joe Lauher (Technic Set Summary, 1960's Lego)
> > Jim Huges (Technic Set Index)
> >
> > Do you have any contact with these guys? IMHO, some of the existing pictures in
> > the database are appearantly from T.Ericsson, H. Millington and K. Loch's sites,
> > although I could be wrong. If this is the case (I mean they already gave
> > permission for the use of their scans) I can use those pictures, too.
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> It still never hurts to ask, although Huw (and I think Kevin) have given
> "blanket" permission for use of the images in this context. I don't recall
> if Tore, Joe, and Jim have given such blanket permissions, so I would ask.
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> Aside from explicit permissions, however, I believe that it is really a
> moral issue and not a legal one, since TLG owns the copyrights and not third
> parties.
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> I often clean up images too (removing spots, wrinkles, pen marks, sometimes
> coffee stains) and resize or sharpen images, thus creating a different
> publishable entity from the original.
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> But in any case, we never enter an image into the DB without first obtaining
> permission from the third party originally hosting the image. (In other
> words, we never steal images from other people's sites.)
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> It's theoretically possible that someone might grab an image off of someone
> else's site and upload it without saying where it came from, but I'm not
> aware of any such cases. People tend to scan things themselves and send
> them along to 2 or 3 different places all at once, who then in turn publish
> them in slightly different formats, or people point to some place where a
> new image is available (for example, some old 60's set on eBay) and we
> contact the auctioneer and ask for permission to hork the image.
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> > PS. There are also some pictures from the www.lego.com., currently added to the
> > database (look at 626-627 and some accessory set pictures). Do you have
> > permission to do that, or they were transferred to the Lugnet all together with
> > Pause and you are not aware?
>
> No, we don't have permission to host copies of images from www.lego.com;
> these would have been in the original DB we inherited. We did write TLG
> attorneys a while ago and ask them what they thought about such duplication
> and whether it was setting a bad or a good example, but we haven't heard
> back.
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> Notwithstanding, we've been replacing these with new images as we've
> discovered them. I don't think we ultimately want to have any images that
> are from www.lego.com because of the look & feel and the potential for
> consumer confusion. (Unless, of course, if the image at www.lego.com were
> the front panel of an instruction booklet rather than the angular view of
> the boxes which they typically have now.)
>
> --Todd
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| (...) It still never hurts to ask, although Huw (and I think Kevin) have given "blanket" permission for use of the images in this context. I don't recall if Tore, Joe, and Jim have given such blanket permissions, so I would ask. Aside from explicit (...) (26 years ago, 27-Nov-98, to lugnet.admin.database)
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