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Re: Updatezilla
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Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:32:18 GMT
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"Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> writes:
> By the way, I investigated a little bit the pictures in my hand which were not
> scanned by me, and found that they were mostly extracted/cropped from the
> catalog/idea book and other sacnned materials from the web sites of:
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> Kevin Loch (Instruction Scan Site)
> Tore Ericsson (Old Lego Scans)
> Huw Millington (Promotional Set Database, 1970's Lego and Catalog Scans)
> Joe Lauher (Technic Set Summary, 1960's Lego)
> Jim Huges (Technic Set Index)
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> Do you have any contact with these guys? IMHO, some of the existing pictures in
> the database are appearantly from T.Ericsson, H. Millington and K. Loch's sites,
> although I could be wrong. If this is the case (I mean they already gave
> permission for the use of their scans) I can use those pictures, too.
It still never hurts to ask, although Huw (and I think Kevin) have given
"blanket" permission for use of the images in this context. I don't recall
if Tore, Joe, and Jim have given such blanket permissions, so I would ask.
Aside from explicit permissions, however, I believe that it is really a
moral issue and not a legal one, since TLG owns the copyrights and not third
parties.
I often clean up images too (removing spots, wrinkles, pen marks, sometimes
coffee stains) and resize or sharpen images, thus creating a different
publishable entity from the original.
But in any case, we never enter an image into the DB without first obtaining
permission from the third party originally hosting the image. (In other
words, we never steal images from other people's sites.)
It's theoretically possible that someone might grab an image off of someone
else's site and upload it without saying where it came from, but I'm not
aware of any such cases. People tend to scan things themselves and send
them along to 2 or 3 different places all at once, who then in turn publish
them in slightly different formats, or people point to some place where a
new image is available (for example, some old 60's set on eBay) and we
contact the auctioneer and ask for permission to hork the image.
> PS. There are also some pictures from the www.lego.com., currently added to the
> database (look at 626-627 and some accessory set pictures). Do you have
> permission to do that, or they were transferred to the Lugnet all together with
> Pause and you are not aware?
No, we don't have permission to host copies of images from www.lego.com;
these would have been in the original DB we inherited. We did write TLG
attorneys a while ago and ask them what they thought about such duplication
and whether it was setting a bad or a good example, but we haven't heard
back.
Notwithstanding, we've been replacing these with new images as we've
discovered them. I don't think we ultimately want to have any images that
are from www.lego.com because of the look & feel and the potential for
consumer confusion. (Unless, of course, if the image at www.lego.com were
the front panel of an instruction booklet rather than the angular view of
the boxes which they typically have now.)
--Todd
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| What I tell people when they ask is that I can't give or revoke permission to use the images on my site because I don't own them in the first place. I agree it's a nettequette issue rather than a legal one. KL (...) (26 years ago, 29-Nov-98, to lugnet.admin.database)
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| (...) I thought hork meant to toss your cookies? :) From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what you can, but behave yourself. We'll have more, right after this. (26 years ago, 2-Dec-98, to lugnet.admin.database)
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| Todd Lehman (lehman@javanet.com) wrote: : "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> writes: : > By the way, I investigated a little bit the pictures in my hand which were not : > scanned by me, and found that they were mostly (...) (25 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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| Hi all Todd, now I've 521 set pictures that are not registered to the database yet, and 202 other pictures for the sets with missing pictures. I'm still waiting further info from you. By the way, I investigated a little bit the pictures in my hand (...) (26 years ago, 27-Nov-98, to lugnet.admin.database)
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