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Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
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lugnet.admin.database
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Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:02:19 GMT
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Selçuk <teyyareci> <sgore@AVOIDSPAMsuperonline.com>
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:FMEzxF.Au8@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, Selçuk Göre writes:
> > > Huw made a mistake, <snip>
> >
> > This is not fair. Nobody sure that it was a mistake rigt now. It's been
> > suggested that it MIGHT BE a mistake, since nobody knows anything about • the
> > (consistent) policy of TLC about vendor catalogs.
>
> Well, let's get something straight here first:
>
> 1. TLC's policy about vendor/retailer catalogs is only half of the issue.
> It doesn't take a genius to figure out that something known as a
> "retailer catalog" (which consumers almost *never* see) is not • intended
> for consumers ever to see.
>
> 2. Posting scans of portions of a retailer catalog -- including major • leaks
> about upcoming product lines and details -- *before* those product • lines
> have been released officially -- is the other half of the issue.
>
> Those are two separate things.
I'm with the second one completely, although it is fun to watch the rumours
and "spy works" around..:-)
Actually I read all the thread with a feel of "hmm...there is something
exegerrated unnecessarily" but you're Todd The Man, and I'm Selçuk The
Ignorant Turk, so it's normal..:-)
> We haven't heard from TLC conclusively on #1, but like I said, it doesn't
> take a genius to figure out that it's probably not really a good idea. On
I meant the word "probable" here..
> top of that, if Suzanne says is something like that is wrong, I can be • sure
> (without any doubt whatsoever in my mind) that it's wrong.
I don't know Susanne as much, obviously..:-), so I can't be sure as much,
especially about the way of her saying it at first (considering Huw is not a
newbie to the community and always contribute positively, with no faults in
his background as I know of. Anyway, those are all seemingly concluded
already, so I'm only a late comer..:-)
>
> > PS. Todd, Could you please check the message with subject "Update info • for
> > Lugnet Database Volume V" that I've posted last year to admin.database. • If
> > it is not appropriate to publish vendors' catalogs, I think we should do
> > something more..:-(
>
> OK, I just dug that up,
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/admin/database/?n=52
>
> and, Hmmm, yes, very good point; we should be extra cautious here, in
> retrospect.
So "Straight #1" goes straight into waste basket..:-) (since I know you are
genious)
> Selçuk, to the best of your knowledge, are there photos of any sets there
> which:
>
> - never eventually appeared in a consumer product line, and
> - never were mentioned in published in any LEGO advertising, and
> - contain sensitive LEGO-internal information
> ?
I cannot remember anything specific to this catalog. It has even no set
names and prices. Just the set numbers, box pictures, and asterisks on newly
introduced sets with minimal or no other writing in it. And all of the sets
has appearings in other catalogs as well. Only thing that I can remember as
a different thing from the other catalogs is an information page which gives
number of pieces for each set (quite different for a Euro catalog) and
number of boxes per parcel (you already have that page).
But I remember an entry for a not released ever set from a vendors catalog.
Check out set# 6500. This picture was from Huw, too (evil man..:-) and
suggested for donation to Lugnet database by me..:-)
> From the looks of it (looking up about 10 of the sets at random), the • answer
> looks like 'no' since each image in the DB is a highly-cropped scan • showing
> simply a photo of the box -- nothing sensitive or secret. I'll go through
> them in more detail tomorrow. Maybe others can have a look too and see if
> there's anything questionable.
>
> Thanks for bringing it up,
>
> --Todd
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